The Recreational Drug Thread

[stormjh]

Does anyone else get headaches after not having enough caffeine?

[ElephantSack]

No, but I have been drinking more coffee lately. If I drink too much, I might get nauseous and I'll have a wicked crash afterward. I hate that.

[Ronnie Jane Devo]

I tried salvia with a friend of mine this past weekend, first time for both of us. Neither of us was able to reach the sort of breakthrough trip we've read about, but it still gave us mild psychedelic effects like CEVs, wavy carpet patterns, tracers, etc. which were somewhat amusing but ultimately unsatisfying. We smoked out of a bowl, so maybe the problem was that the smoke was too harsh for us to chug on enough of it. People normally smoke it out of a bong I suppose.

Anyway, at least it was a nice gentle introduction to the drug rather than just getting dumped headlong into some ego-shattering dissociative mindfuck, haha.

[duga]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Jane Devo

I tried salvia with a friend of mine this past weekend, first time for both of us. Neither of us was able to reach the sort of breakthrough trip we've read about, but it still gave us mild psychedelic effects like CEVs, wavy carpet patterns, tracers, etc. which were somewhat amusing but ultimately unsatisfying. We smoked out of a bowl, so maybe the problem was that the smoke was too harsh for us to chug on enough of it. People normally smoke it out of a bong I suppose.

Anyway, at least it was a nice gentle introduction to the drug rather than just getting dumped headlong into some ego-shattering dissociative mindfuck, haha.

I recommend trying it again. It really is possible to achieve a breakthrough with salvia. You just have to respect it and take it as a learning experience, not as something to party on. That is the mistake a lot of people make since you just smoke it like weed and it is legal. Salvia is actually one of the most potent psychedelics available to man, and for good reason.

Be calm and open when taking it next time. Anything could happen. Many people speak of it as "Lady Salvia" allowing you access to its knowledge if she "senses" you are ready. I take this as, if you have the right mindset and are "ready" the drug can access different parts of your brain that you might instinctively be blocking. Get a bong, load it up and take it one rip. I promise it isn't too harsh...for some reason with the water filtering it, it is actually quite pleasant to take in (for me anyway...weed is way more harsh imo). Let it sit in your lungs for a minute or so, exhale, and prepare for a journey.

[Freebase Dali]

I think the major factors are strength (I wouldn't go with anything less than 15x), medium (Water bubblers are best because they smooth the smoke and you can hold more for longer) and hold-time (A good lung-full for 15-20 seconds followed by another).

Another thing I've noticed is Salvia's potency decreases with age. I've been having the same 3gram bag for about 2 years now and it's nowhere near as potent as when I first got it.

[debaserr]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I think the major factors are strength (I wouldn't go with anything less than 15x), medium (Water bubblers are best because they smooth the smoke and you can hold more for longer) and hold-time (A good lung-full for 15-20 seconds followed by another).

Another thing I've noticed is Salvia's potency decreases with age. I've been having the same 3gram bag for about 2 years now and it's nowhere near as potent as when I first got it.

i took some 15x about a week after I got it and not much happened. 3 months or so later, i did the same amount and tripped balls.

[Freebase Dali]

Originally Posted by trace87

i took some 15x about a week after I got it and not much happened. 3 months or so later, i did the same amount and tripped balls.

Well it certainly didn't get more potent with age, that much I'm sure of... so there must have been some other factor involved.

Mine is 20x, and it probably degraded to like 12x in the time I've had it.

[Ronnie Jane Devo]

Originally Posted by duga

I recommend trying it again. It really is possible to achieve a breakthrough with salvia. You just have to respect it and take it as a learning experience, not as something to party on. That is the mistake a lot of people make since you just smoke it like weed and it is legal. Salvia is actually one of the most potent psychedelics available to man, and for good reason.

My friend and I were alone together in a quiet place, so it wasn't like we were just doing it on a whim at a party. We were hoping to break through, but other than that I don't think we had any undue expectations.

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I think the major factors are strength (I wouldn't go with anything less than 15x), medium (Water bubblers are best because they smooth the smoke and you can hold more for longer) and hold-time (A good lung-full for 15-20 seconds followed by another).

Another thing I've noticed is Salvia's potency decreases with age. I've been having the same 3gram bag for about 2 years now and it's nowhere near as potent as when I first got it.

We were doing 15-20x and holding it in for at least 20 seconds. We could have smoked it a lot faster than we did, but we tended to pause after each hit to see what effect it was having. I definitely want to try it in a bong next time, maybe a gravity bong. The salvia was purchased in November and came in a sealed packet, so I assume aging is not a factor for now, but that's good to know about.

Thanks for the advice guys!

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I think the major factors are strength (I wouldn't go with anything less than 15x), medium (Water bubblers are best because they smooth the smoke and you can hold more for longer) and hold-time (A good lung-full for 15-20 seconds followed by another).

Another thing I've noticed is Salvia's potency decreases with age. I've been having the same 3gram bag for about 2 years now and it's nowhere near as potent as when I first got it.

I'd recommend a torch style lighter as well. I've had much better experiences with one, and read about it somewhere that salvia burns at a higher temp.
I'd say after you smoke it a few times, you can set yourself up by going to a sick spot or by placing things around. Ex: a mattress on a floor and some fatheads on the wall will put you on an extreme cannibal dodging rafting adventure. Dark places with minimal lights almost always turn celestial and spacey. I always think everyone im with is on a different planet and we must yell to communicate.

[pourmeanother]

How'd the weekend search turn out, buddy?