The Recreational Drug Thread

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by tore

Actually, reading Dr. Frankel's site, he too admits that cannabis does cause anxiety.



.. But he seems to think that strain is the important thing and that some strains may be used to great effect in treating anxiety. I can accept such a claim as it's certainly a bit more moderated than a general claim that MJ is good against anxiety.

I fully agree. I, as well as most people that use MJ, have experimented between Indicas and Sativas, and their respective hybrids. I enjoy each one differently, mostly depending on the situation, but lean a bit more toward Sativas. When growing, I definitely favor the Sativa. I would pick an Indica when I want to sit down and watch a comedy, and lose my mind for a bit. Sativas are for my creative side, and are a total brain food IMO.

[Necromancer]

Has any one tried the new herbal incense that you can buy over the counter now, they have vanilla, strawberry, mint, and so on, (Serenity) except instead of burning it for the aroma, if you smoke it, it gives you almost the same high as pot, and it really is almost just as good as most bud except for the cronic, it cost a little more $, close to $40 for 1.5 grams & around $70 for 3.5 grams, its legal in some states for the time being and isnt detected in a drug test, I bought some while I was in Texas a couple of weeks back, I dont think you can buy it here in Ohio, not sure.

[debaserr]

sounds fishy

[Necromancer]

Originally Posted by trace87

sounds fishy

I know, I had the same reaction, a friend of mine is a little obsessed with this Serenity thing and has done alot of research over the internet, it is up to be voted on to make it illegal in the US, it already is illegal in other countries, it contains red clover, blue lotus, lions tail, almond, honey, etc. but I guess it is a chemical that is introduced into the ingredients that causes the high feeling, it could all become illegal within the next couple of months in the US.

[Guybrush]

^Such highs could be simple placebos, imaginary highs caused by belief that the incense has an intoxicating effect. It might be real as well of course .. Either way, I don't think it's smart to smoke something you don't know what contains, especially if it has a real effect on the nervous system. Before you find out what it is you're smoking and get some detailed info, you don't know if or how it may potentially harm you.

[Necromancer]

Originally Posted by tore

^Such highs could be simple placebos, imaginary highs caused by belief that the incense has an intoxicating effect. It might be real as well of course .. Either way, I don't think it's smart to smoke something you don't know what contains, especially if it has a real effect on the nervous system. Before you find out what it is you're smoking and get some detailed info, you don't know if or how it may potentially harm you.

It is the real deal, there is information on the internet about the effects of.. and so on. its getting popular only because it is legal and isnt detected in a drug test.

[debaserr]

still sounds fishy

[Necromancer]

Originally Posted by trace87

still sounds fishy

Well hell...this is America brother, there is always something fishy going on in the states, seriously though I cant believe the way the oil spill/leak in the gulf seems so out of hand, now thats fishy, and far from the current subject at hand.

[Freebase Dali]

Guys, all those "legal herbs" like K2 and Serenity and all that... they use a chemical. I think the main one is JWH-018. Look it up... it does mostly the same thing as THC does in the brain. It's not a placebo. It doesn't matter what the "herb" or other smoking material/matter is, either.
You could put the stuff on oak tree leaves and get the same effect. And since the chemical isn't regulated everywhere yet, it's being used in the production of "legal weed" and sold wherever it can be. Quite successfully I might add.

You can probably order the chemical online and make your own. I'm sure there are already guides on the web.
Anyway, I just thought it was worth mentioning that you can give all these new pseudo-weed products different names and different opinions, but it really comes down to what's being put in them, which is mostly known at this point.

As far as I know, there are some other variants of JWH-018 that may be used instead. It's already known about JWH-018 being in those products already. And laws are already being signed to ban them for that very reason.

[Thrice]

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Guys, all those "legal herbs" like K2 and Serenity and all that... they use a chemical. I think the main one is JWH-018. Look it up... it does mostly the same thing as THC does in the brain. It's not a placebo. It doesn't matter what the "herb" or other smoking material/matter is, either.
You could put the stuff on oak tree leaves and get the same effect. And since the chemical isn't regulated everywhere yet, it's being used in the production of "legal weed" and sold wherever it can be. Quite successfully I might add.

You can probably order the chemical online and make your own. I'm sure there are already guides on the web.
Anyway, I just thought it was worth mentioning that you can give all these new pseudo-weed products different names and different opinions, but it really comes down to what's being put in them, which is mostly known at this point.

As far as I know, there are some other variants of JWH-018 that may be used instead. It's already known about JWH-018 being in those products already. And laws are already being signed to ban them for that very reason.

Exactly what I was going to say, JWH. It is similar to rags. Its nothing like a good MJ buzz, it turned you into a heavy headed zombie. I guess it could be cool for people on probation, or you could just learn how to piss clean.