The Recreational Drug Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Aurora

I'd love to live in America, or Amsterdam.

Not a bad place to live. There's just too many Americans.

[musicaddictguy]

I'm very addicted to caffeine... I have to drink 2 glasses of coffee everyday to keep myself wake up. Half of my soul is supported by espresso, and other half one is supported by cappucino. I can drink a glass of espresso, and sleep tight few minutes later.

I'm also drink alcohol, but only for occasional pleasure, and I won't drink it if I had personal problem (I won't get addicted to alcohol). I never addicted to Angry Bird, but when I was in school I was addicted to Tetris, a primitive game that still addictive even today.

But I never tried illegal substance, my ex girlfriend used to smoke weeds when dating me, but somehow I'm not interested to tried it.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by musicaddictguy

New users are not permitted to share links as per our RuuuUUUUUuuuUUUUULEEEES. Thanks.

Way to use your sig to be passive aggressive. That's what mature people do.

[SATCHMO]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Way to use your sig to be passive aggressive. That's what mature people do.

I do believe his signature was chosen for him.

[lucifer_sam]

Studious stoner is studious.

I've smoked hash with a glass 'knife' & ash-catcher before, that really isn't that bad for you. But yeah, if you're smoking resinated weed out of anything, you really want your hot substrate to be as chemically inert and involatile as possible.

Cheap silverware? Not so much.

[SATCHMO]

Wow, apparently the last time I smoked hash was much longer ago than I thought. I stand thoroughly corrected.

[ThePhanastasio]

I'm really not too sure about the nausea thing - I mean, I definitely boiled and then dried out and crushed the seeds up pretty much every time I've done 'em. Like I said, only saw one person get sick - BUT - I think that if you were to just get like, Burpee seeds or something, there would be more crap on them. There are places online where you can get more "untreated" seeds which is what I did, and the other friends who've purchased seeds did.

Apparently, nausea can still be a side effect of 'em, even if precautions are taken...but, then again, it's like that with shrooms, too. I've seen people lose their lunch after taking shrooms.

BUT with that said, I would recommend 'em as a substitute. The trip isn't as long by a long shot, and it's not as strong as illegal psychedelics, but if you test yourself on a light dose as per this handy dandy table, you can see how you're affected for future endeavors.

[LoathsomePete]

Do these show up on drug tests? I have a friend in the Navy who is pretty experienced with psychedelic drugs, but has to stay sober, who might be interested in this. For awhile last year we smoked that spice crap, which he could smoke because it didn't show up on a piss test. His wife keeps on talking about how they can't wait till he's out so they can start smoking pot again, but I'm sure a trip or two together on this stuff and she could get her drug quota filled.

[ThePhanastasio]

Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Do these show up on drug tests? I have a friend in the Navy who is pretty experienced with psychedelic drugs, but has to stay sober, who might be interested in this. For awhile last year we smoked that spice crap, which he could smoke because it didn't show up on a piss test. His wife keeps on talking about how they can't wait till he's out so they can start smoking pot again, but I'm sure a trip or two together on this stuff and she could get her drug quota filled.

Drug tests don't test for LSA - HOWEVER - I did read an article regarding Hawaiian Baby Woodrose and Morning Glory Seeds (LSA) on Erowid earlier which says that there have been cases of them giving false positives for LSD.

It made it sound unlikely, and stressed also that LSD is rarely tested for in the first place - although in the military, I'd imagine that they would test for it.

EDIT: More digging around brought me to read this article on erowid, which says:

Military
Beginning in the early 2000's, some parts of the military began testing for LSD. However, the Feb 18, 2008 Army Times reported that the Department of Defense has stopped LSD testing military wide. Reportedly this was because only four positive LSD tests were found out of more than 2 million test conducted over a three year period. A cost-benefit analysis resulted in the military ceasing LSD testing as part of their standard panel. Note that it is possible that non-standard tests are conducted in unique cases. We have been told that the Air Force will court martial airmen on the basis of a single positive test for LSD

That's for the US Military, but still - they make it sound as though testing for LSD is difficult and costly, and something most people don't even bother with. Which I did not know.

Both LSA and LSD only stay in urine for approximately 72 hours anyway, though. And since it's not likely yet still possible that LSA could trigger a false positive, LSD isn't necessarily a standard test, and the odds of it triggering a false positive AND being detected seem slim at worst.

[LoathsomePete]

Wow, thank you for the thorough explanation. I'll ask my friend first if he's heard anything, plus some of the military guys I know up at school. Odds are looking good that I will give these a try, and hopefully avoid any of the less than flattering symptoms.