The Recreational Drug Thread

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by The Monkey

Anyone ever tried sativa hash? The vast majority of the hash here is from Marocco (brown) or Afghanistan (black), both of which are made from indica. I hate the dumb stoned feeling of indica, which is why I mostly do weed instead, which tends to be sativa. Would love to try some proper sativa hash one day that you get up rather than down from.

Sure. My friends and I have made it before (like shoe hash), but our usual supplier makes it as well, via butane distillation. But for me, if you're smoking hash around here, you're skint or planning on it. There's simply no reason to prefer it to dry bud. It's just so much more...harsh.

We don't even see indica around here. Too fucking expensive to get through customs, easier to grow denser sativa plants in the local grow houses. I'd love to get me some Hindu Kush or Northern Lights. Just not in hash form.

[anticipation]

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Sure. My friends and I have made it before (like shoe hash), but our usual supplier makes it as well, via butane distillation. But for me, if you're smoking hash around here, you're skint or planning on it. There's simply no reason to prefer it to dry bud. It's just so much more...harsh.

We don't even see indica around here. Too fucking expensive to get through customs, easier to grow denser sativa plants in the local grow houses. I'd love to get me some Hindu Kush or Northern Lights.

You'd be surprised at how much indica or indica-dominants you're smoking. If you've ever bought anything purple it's indica, and it's shocking how many strains that are purported sativas are actually indica genetics that induce sativa-like highs. The ganja is an amazing plant

As for sativa hash, I've had amazing BHO, full-melt bubble, and even some Moroccan press that gets you energized and ready for the day. Used to have a daily wake-and-dab and had great results, I recommend Durban Poison wax, or Sour D amber if you can get it.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by anticipation

You'd be surprised at how much indica or indica-dominants you're smoking. If you've ever bought anything purple it's indica, and it's shocking how many strains that are purported sativas are actually indica genetics that induce sativa-like highs. The ganja is an amazing plant

As for sativa hash, I've had amazing BHO, full-melt bubble, and even some Moroccan press that gets you energized and ready for the day. Used to have a daily wake-and-dab and had great results, I recommend Durban Poison wax, or Sour D amber if you can get it.

Anticipation is nailing it. I prefer the durban poison wax also, but i will give him points for the sour diesel amber which is pretty close to the high of the durban. I think most places will tell you what you want to hear with regards to high and normally push whats not selling.

I've always preferred indica and think it gives me a hyper high unlike my friends who claim the sativa high is better. I go indica always, just tried some MANGO APE the other day that is otherworldly.

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by anticipation

You'd be surprised at how much indica or indica-dominants you're smoking. If you've ever bought anything purple it's indica, and it's shocking how many strains that are purported sativas are actually indica genetics that induce sativa-like highs. The ganja is an amazing plant

As for sativa hash, I've had amazing BHO, full-melt bubble, and even some Moroccan press that gets you energized and ready for the day. Used to have a daily wake-and-dab and had great results, I recommend Durban Poison wax, or Sour D amber if you can get it.

I realize that, but I haven't had anything with thread darker than a burnt orange. And I'm able to distinguish the difference, I'm just not exposed to it that much. Seriously heady indica is just too expensive for me, especially when the sativa is what I'm accustomed to. But I digress, I simply love it when science makes drugs feel better.

EDIT: Aren't most strains of weed on a sliding scale of hybridization (e.g. Northern Lights is 70/30 indica/sativa, Sour Diesel 55/45, etc...[I'm just pulling these numbers out of my ass])? I didn't think there were any pure indicas or sativas out there.

[ThePhanastasio]

So, I'm not taking acid for a good long time. I had the worst trip I've ever had the other day. It didn't seem like it was going to go awry; the set and setting were fine. I was comfortable, in a good head space, no risk of any bad vibes and surrounded by good, friendly folk...but it just didn't go well.

I've taken high doses on numerous occasions, and this dose wasn't all that high: five hits. That's usually right where I'll good really good open eye visuals, sometimes tracers that are so intense they'll blot out most of my field of vision. But on that dose, I'm still acutely aware that I'm tripping, and just sit back and enjoy the ride.

I tried that, but something set me off. I think it all really started when I was beginning to peak, and a friend of mine was drinking coffee. He referred to it as a "damn fine cup of coffee - and hot!" which got my mind looping around Twin Peaks.

The unfortunate thing is that my friend's living room rug looks like this:


and the "red room" in Twin Peaks canon - within the Black Lodge - looks like this:


So I started thinking about that, got lost in my thoughts, and a little troubled.

It just started getting cold the other night, so when I came to from my mind loop and looked around at my friends, I told them I was cold. One of my buddies tossed me a red fleece blanket, which I wrapped around me.

Then I started staring at the carpet. I somehow, because I was tripping too hard to understand what my friends were saying, became convinced I was trapped in the Black Lodge. My ears started ringing, and I was panicking, but I kept trying to reassure myself it was going to be okay, that I just needed to face the lodge with courage, and I'd be all right.

It was then that I noticed I was wrapped in the red blanket - which I perceived as being curtains, and lost it completely, trying desperately to free myself. (This part I don't really remember - it was told to me the next day when I came down) I also, at this point was apparently babbling nonsense about it not being the owls, but the deer, who aren't what they seem. And I also kept saying my soul was utterly destroyed, and I'd never ascend to the White Lodge now, and that Bob was near.

I was very convinced that Bob was standing right outside the room. I do remember that feeling.

There was a lot more babbling, including my conviction that The Lady In the Radiator was a spirit of the lodge, before my friends finally convinced me to take a Xanax (which I'm really not all that down with, but this was apparently drastic measures) and chill the fuck out.

I also vaguely remember "finding God" at some point in the trip, and him turning his back on me, but I'm not entirely sure how that tied into everything else.

But yes...a break from LSD is definitely going to happen.

[anticipation]

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

I realize that, but I haven't had anything with thread darker than a burnt orange. And I'm able to distinguish the difference, I'm just not exposed to it that much. Seriously heady indica is just too expensive for me, especially when the sativa is what I'm accustomed to. But I digress, I simply love it when science makes drugs feel better.

EDIT: Aren't most strains of weed on a sliding scale of hybridization (e.g. Northern Lights is 70/30 indica/sativa, Sour Diesel 55/45, etc...[I'm just pulling these numbers out of my ass])? I didn't think there were any pure indicas or sativas out there.

Well most "strains" you're going to hear of are actually cuts of a particular pheno of marijuana. In other words, although you may be smoking "Sour D", in actuality you are smoking the marijuana from a singular clone/seed with completely unique genetics, stemming usually from some sort of hybridized frankenplant. Each plant is like a person, meaning no two are alike. For example, Northern Lights is actually the name of a crop that yielded roughly 7 cuts, the most well known of which is NL #5. Now, NL is usually regarded as one of the most potent stable plants for use in breeding, but most don't know that some of the cuts (#1 and #7 in particular) exhibit unique characteristics that blend the traditonal Indica heritage with Swiss Afghani males that completely alter the end product of any hybrid. The original NL 5 is a clone-only strain; it is here that we find the majority of pure Indicas and Sativas. Cuttings present the opportunity to maintain the integrity of the landrace, thereby preventing the creation of hybrids but allowing for the "inbreeding" of favorable traits.

Usually any Thai, South American, or South African outdoor landrace will be 100% sativa as a result of generations of inbreeding, whereas Afghani, Indian, and mostly any Asian strain will be stout indicas. The consistency in strains today are actually diluted or altered variations on the original family's traits.

[adidasss]

^^ Wow..informative cat is informative...

Anyhow, slightly related to this topic, is there an appropriate English slang word which denotes a person who likes to habitually use drugs but is not addicted to them? We have a very appropriate term in Croatian but the closest translation I can think of in English is "junkie" which is a loaded term and implies addiction...:\

[FETCHER.]

I can only think of Stoner. I can't think of words to describe ecstasy or cocaine or the like. I'll probably be able to think better later.

Last night when I was stoned, me and my friend started talking about halloween cotumes and how she didn't want to be spaceman anymore and wanted to dress up as something cool like a hand. It completely set me off. I literally couldn't breathe for thinking of her face coming out at the knuckle on the middle finger or the nail. I still laugh when I think about it. It also took me about 5 mins to set skins. 5 MINUTES.

[lucifer_sam]

Even though my eyeballs currently feel like they're being crushed by my forehead, I have no regrets about these shenanigans. That right there is a seldom-seen wonder known as an "eighth blunt".

I have never smoked this much weed out of a paper apparatus before.

[LoathsomePete]

It looks almost as good as the Camberwell Carrot.