The Recreational Drug Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by WhateverDude

Graffiti removal is, I'd reckon, a very minute portion of tax payers' money. I'd wager as little as cents per person. Could be wrong but it's not as harmful as you're making it out to be.



I think you just are incapable of appreciating what goes into good graffiti, even if it's just a tag.

Alright I'm done with this. For all you pretend you want to change your ways or figure out what's wrong with you, when somebody says something as ****ing simple as "Don't vandalize property if you want to be not an *******", and you can't even see the wisdom in it, then you're ****ing hopeless. Your funny, drunken posts aren't even funny anymore. They're depressing. If you want sympathy for your various ****ed up ****, go to LiL. I don't care anymore.

[DwnWthVwls]

Do you also hate it on the highways, underpasses, bridges, etc. ? "Uninhabited" areas.

Originally Posted by WhateverDude

I think you just are incapable of appreciating what goes into good graffiti, even if it's just a tag.

I didn't read the convo, and I don't care what it's about but that sentence is worth repeating.

[Chula Vista]

I had lunch yesterday in this killer Vietnamese place near my work. It's a somewhat classy joint that's kept really clean. Was in the restroom and noticed that someone had tagged the electronic paper towel dispenser.

Now there's art for you.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by WhateverDude

You're missin the point still. Graff has pretty specific aesthetic ideals... it's not just a way of sayin **** you. It's sayin **** you stylishly. To me anyways... There's definitely kids that just wanna wreck ****. Myself at a time included.

I just don't understand the concept of wrecking **** myself. It started out as art and inscription, a memorial in a sense. I can understand that aesthetic, but destroying property doesn't seem very artistic to me. I grew up in a barrio and gangs used to tag the train tracks and walls throughout our neighborhoods, so I understand fully the concept it just always fell dead on me.

And on topic. I bought some Blueberry Stone last night and i'm gonna get messy and relax tonight.

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[Black Francis]

You must be a trip to smoke with Batty.

i wanna smoke a fatty with the Batty and then sing him this song

[Black Francis]

Some can be pretty creative and even brighten up the area



I grew up around murals and egocentrical graffitis of ppl's name and they only bother me if they are placed in the wrong location or if they lack creativity.

[Chula Vista]

It's actually sanctioned here in San Diego in the Chicano section near the Coronado Bridge. It's actually become a tourist attraction to walk around around the bridge.







Huge difference between that and randomly tagging ****.

[Mondo Bungle]

punk rock anarchy

[GuD]

I don't really care about sympathy when I make those obnoxious self loathing posts n stuff, it's just me venting in a place I shouldn't after coming down because I'm too far gone to realize how stupid I'm being. If tagging makes me an ******* by your standards that's really irrelevant to me, I'm not asking for your approval either. The biggest point I'm trying to make in regards to graffiti is that there's more to it than you seem to understand. There's technique. There are aesthetic standards. There is culture. There are values. All of that varies completely depending on who you're asking but the fact of the matter is art is the process of making something with an aesthetic in mind and graffiti is exactly that. If you fail to see it as anything but scribbles on property that's you being ignorant and not taking the time to see what goes into it. Seeing as you live in Virginia it makes sense that maybe you've only ever seen ****ty tags and weak pieces that were hastily thrown together and basically just subconciously say "Look at me! I ****ed up your shit! Haha! **** you!". When it's done right, tagging is pretty much calligraphy. It's penmanship. You could put as much thought into it as you would with a particularly elaborate signature. Wanted or not, there's a craft behind it and it's ****ing exhausting explaining and defending it to every damn square who probably doesn't pay attention to what things look like anyways. Whenever someone says graffiti is just scribbles I always tell them to try it and see if they can do it. Sometimes they think they did but the fact is they never ****ing can. Ever.

[The Batlord]