TheDonald

Bullsh*t, they can tell themself that if they want, but I doubt they truly believe it. They are just pathetic excuses for human beings.

I can't think of any plausible reason for someone to consider child pornography a "fetish." And I'm just trying to say that in Hitler's eyes he thought he was doing something for the good of the world. He ACTUALLY thought he was helping. How can someone molesting a child possibly tell themself that they are helping the child?

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Oh right, so as long as the person thinks that it is okay in their own eyes, that means that it is not purely evil and disguisting? There is NO excuse for slaughtering million of people, no excuse, and I don't care What Hitler thought was right or not, it still makes him (in my books) one of the worst people ever to live.

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This thread is pointless. It just makes it look like I'm defending Hitler and you're defending child molesters. It's retarded.

Predator

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. In the same way as Hitler thought there was nothing wrong with what he did, there are many child molesters that feel there is nothing wrong with what they do..
In a project I was forced to do for Psych 201, I discovered a very disturbing fact. There was a point when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. There was also a time when pedophiles were classified the in much the same way. It was a class of sexual disorders. As time went on, our society became more accepting of "disorders" such as homosexuality and it was removed from the list. Now I was lucky enough to be able to review case study files from my professors office. He treated many people that were convicted of sex crimes. What I found was that only about 50% of child molesters thought what they did was wrong prior to treatment. Half tend to struggle with what they have done because they know that it is wrong. The other half hide what they do because they know that society will not accept it. Now to explain why I brought up homosexuality as a mental disorder. One of my Professors clinic assistants that was involved with group sessions with child molesters was ***. He was not the kind of person to hide it. He was told by a child molester that 50 years ago, they were in the same class of sexual deviants. In time his sexual preference would come to be accepted the same as homosexuality. Tell me that this would come out of the mouth of somebody that feels wrong about what they did. This is not an uncommon perception among untreated pedophiles. Anyone can rationalize what they do. It doesn't make it right. But it is in their mind.

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TheDonald

I may have been wrong to speak in absolutes, so let me re-phrase it. I cannot fathom of any way for someone to justify child molestation.

And don't compare pedophilia with homosexuality, they are completely different. Just b/c homosexuality has come to be accepted does not mean that pedophilia will.

cardboard adolescent

What does make it right? Ultimately what dictates whether or not a person's actions were right or wrong is the decision YOU make, which is just as biased as the judgments of the person in question.

So, just because a pedophile believes his actions to be right, you think they're wrong, I think any judgment is arbitrary, there's no way for any of us to prove his opinion to the others.

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Homosexuality is not a mental illness and thankfully it has been accepted (although not fully by the mentally challenged).
Child abuse is an abomination. Whether or not it is caused by mental illness is academic when you equate it with the ordeal suffered by it's victims.

Predator

I am not comparing homosexuality to pedophilia. I am simply stating what I found while researching a project. 50 years ago society generally viewed both in the same light. Some people still do today. Homosexuality was once viewed as a mental disorder. The general social view was that pedophiles and homosexuals wanted nothing more than to harm your children. Today we know this is not the case. Our social views have changed for the better.

This is true. Our own upbringing and morals dictate what we see as right and wrong. A child that is raised in an abusive home is more likely to become an abuser. That same person is also likely to see nothing wrong their abuse. A child raised by alcoholics is likely to become an alcoholic and see it as normal. A child that is sexually abused may grow up with no thought that it was and is wrong. Our general social views say that pedophilia is wrong and a crime. History does not always tell the same story. At many points a society has seen it as normal for men to only have sex with women to reproduce. Young children were there for general sexual pleasure. It is disgusting and wrong, but they did not see it that way.

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Dr_Rez

Ya don't have to be a Jackass because of two letters...

Find something better to do.

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my other vote goes to my ex, I don't want to get into what he did though.

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