Right, so if you kill a human so it doesnt feel any pain, is that putting it on the same level as plants, and make it alright?
Besides, wolves need meat to live, it's complete differnet thatn humans, they cannot digest plants. Humans can, so again, I fail to see why it is nessiary to eat meat, just to add

Wolves are omnivorous.

Your misinterpetations are ridiculous. I only buy meat from farms that sustainably, and humanely grow cattle/pigs etc, and I said we might as well kill the wolves to make the very point you said, just in reverse. If we try to be humane by not slaughtering animals, we might as well kill all the carnivores in the world.

Oh bullshit, you're twelve. Also that contradicts yourself you just said "Honestly I don't care about the animals."

Um, no that's not what I'm saying at all, in fact I don't even know how you got that out of me asking you to explain your animal/plants stance. You're making no sense.

But we are a species that dont NEED meat to live. Other species DO. Its not the same as a lion say eating meat, for they need it. We don;t. So again, i fail to see why we as humans still eat meat.

I was just pointing out the not being able to digest plants thing.

because it TASTES good, duh!

Yeah, your right, but they still need meat to survive, even if they can eat plants

It is human nature to eat meat. You are going against your own nature to be vegetarian. We are omnivores. Eating nothing but plants does not change that.

Um, canidae's are generally considered carnivora, so no that's not quite right.

Wolves would need meat just as much as humans. They could live without it.

I re-state.

as humans we also have developed alternative foods that do not come from the rotting corpse of a dead animal that offer the same nutrients meat does, human nature or not, i am personally against killing, and if i can live a healthy life without taking anyone else's, i'm very ok with that

They have been observed eating plants and animals. This makes them omnivorous. Their primary diet consists mainly of meat.

They don't eat plants unless they have to, in the same sense of the donner party eating people. They didn't do it for kicks, Wolves don't have our intelligence anyway and couldn't create a food equal to the nutrients they would normally receive from eating meat. You're pretty misinformed on this subject.

A lot of straight edge 90s hardcore bands are also vegan.




I personally don't have a problem with eating something that use to be alive and have feelings and thoughts and everything. I have a problem with corporations making money off of the slaughter of animals. Raising a chicken and eating=fine, store bought chicken=exploitation of life.

I would prefer to live on an natural diet. This includes meat. I could get all I need from a multi-vitamin and cardboard. I choose to eat a diet of plants and animals.

They are primarily carnivore, I agree. However, a true carnivore eats nothing but other animals. Take a snake. A snake would die before eating any plant. That is a 100% carnivore. A wolf can survive on a mixed diet. A wolf will eat a plant that will provide it with a certain vitamin. A true carnivore would not. A wolf is primarily carnivore, but it is an omnivore in the sense that it will eat plants as well as meat. A wolf can even survive with a proper diet excluding meat.

Um no it wouldn't. It would be extremely malnourished and unhealthy without meat. Wolves aren't people, they can't create food with an equal amount of necessary vitamins.

Can you make, with no outside help, the necessary food to provide you with all the nourishment that your body needs? You have outside sources that manufacture the additional vitamins that you need. Outside sources determined that the missing vitamins could be provided without meat. If I were to take a wolf and feed it a diet of nothing but veggies with a multi vitamin to supplement the missing meat, it would thrive. It would willingly eat the veggies.

Unreasonable hypothetical situations don't do much for your argument. The reality is Wolves are wild animals in the wild, we're not.

If you want to play that game, it is an unreasonable hypothetical situation for me to survive without meat.
Canidae in captivity have survived without meat

In captivity, a very different situations from being in the wild. I'm not condemning you or wolves for eating meat and I'm sorry if it's come across that way.

To tell you the truth, you can condemn me for eating meat all you want. Anyone here can do the same. I'm still having some sort of meat with my dinner tonight.

amen,...
i just had a ribeye, grilled rare, with steamed asparagus and roasted fingerling potatos,....

mmmmmm

meat

I wasn't trying to condemn you, I even apologized if I came across that way.

omnivorous - eating all kinds of foods indiscriminately.
carnivorous - flesh-eating
herbivorous - feeding on plants.

Canidae fall under the taxonomic order of carnivora because of their predatory nature. They are mainly carnivorous, but they do eat all foods.

Yeah but unless humans intervene they won't be very healthy if they cut out the meat.

I know, I'm just saying I am not going to feel bad eating a pork chop because of the discussions here. I would accept your apology if I had felt that you were attempting to degrade me. I never felt that way. It was nothing more than a debate. There is no need for an apology.

Which makes it so they can never be herbivores in the wild.

I never suggested they should be. Proggy was the one suggesting we kill them all of for harming deer.

I'm not saying that you did, I never said that either. I only said that they are omnivores.

I never suggested that.

You did in a sarcastic way.

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^^^Thank you, I was looking for that.^^^

way to take my post out of context. Notice the 'might as well'.

How could I take it out of context when I quoted it exactly?

How accurately you quoted has nothing to do with context. I was using it to illustrate how ridiculous I think not eating meat for the sake of the poor little bunnies is.

Bunnies are nothing special. They really do taste just like chicken, just less meat.