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WWWP · 06-10-2015, 12:12 PM

Built in gratuity at what percentage? And where does it apply? Does that mean you think all tips should be taxed?

**Frownland** · 06-10-2015, 12:14 PM

250%. Duh.

WWWP · 06-10-2015, 12:14 PM

For real though, taxed tips ****ing suck.

**Frownland** · 06-10-2015, 12:17 PM

Well don't tax them and if there's some law abhorring what I propose then please refer to the link below:

Why Taxing Built in Gratuities is Harmful to the Economy As a Whole - MSNBC Nightly News

fiddler · 06-10-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fiddler

If the service is good, I tip. I generally will do 10% and round it up so it makes the bill even. If the service sucks, I don't tip. Why is this so complicated?

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Good service is not as linked to good tips as everyone thinks. I work just as hard for a $1 bill to be thrown into my tip jar as I do for a five milkshake order that I get nothing for. It's not an incentive, it's the only way I can afford to live between paychecks.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

So that you don't get fired from your job that utilizes built in gratuity because it's an industry that always needs people who can replace you any time of day, regardless of the tip rates.

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

Built in gratuity at what percentage? And where does it apply? Does that mean you think all tips should be taxed?

10%. I said this. Or 15% if the service was really outstanding. And yes I realize waitresses/waiters/etc work for the tips rather than the paycheck. I've seen it happen that after taxes a waiter's paycheck is like $2.35 or something like that. I have seen that. What I was saying that if you a) can't get my order right after multiple tries; b) can't manage to bring simple drinks in a timely fashion; c) can't bring some napkins, etc, why am I going to tip you?

Case in point:
I was at Chili's on a Tuesday and they were exceptionally busy for a Tuesday night and they were short handed. Okay I understand that, however, there was only three of us, and we ordered three sweet teas to drink and so we'd have time to decide. Not really an overtly complicated drink order. It took us an HOUR to get our teas and for the waiter to come back to take our order. Then I ordered a steak medium-well, first one I got was sired (barely) and raw on the inside completely. So I sent it back and the next steak I got was burnt to a crisp. So I sent it back and I got a cheese burger in return. It took 45 minutes for the feller to bring us some napkins for the fairly messy wings we had.

Did he get a tip? Sure. Learn to do his fucking job. (And the entire meal was comped.)

Ninetales · 06-10-2015, 01:19 PM

I believe Europe had gratuity at around 17 or 18%. which seems reasonable to me.

Trollheart · 06-10-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

you said you tip everyone

now you're saying you tip everyone that society arbitrarily decides you should tip, which is what ninetales was questioning/whining about in the first place, making your charge that he 'just seems tight' a clear indication that you haven't properly grasped the argument you are trying to dismiss/discredit

i was trying to plant the seed that might lead to you question your convictions without having to spoon feed the logic to you, cause to me that is what is kind of boring these days

Hate to break it to you JWB, but I don't exist to make your life more interesting. Find a hobby.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 06-10-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I don't exist to make your life more interesting.

lol, but yes you do

DwnWthVwls · 06-10-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

lol, but yes you do

I'd have to agree. If you guys(MB) didn't add interest to my life I wouldn't stick around.

Trollheart · 06-11-2015, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

lol, but yes you do

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'd have to agree. If you guys(MB) didn't add interest to my life I wouldn't stick around.

Oh well. As long as I amuse the staff...

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06-10-2015, 12:14 PM	#19842 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	250%. Duh. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-10-2015, 12:17 PM	#19844 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Well don't tax them and if there's some law abhorring what I propose then please refer to the link below: Why Taxing Built in Gratuities is Harmful to the Economy As a Whole - MSNBC Nightly News __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-10-2015, 01:19 PM	#19846 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	I believe Europe had gratuity at around 17 or 18%. which seems reasonable to me.