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Old 02-19-2021, 08:31 PM   #24431 (permalink)
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Just a medium sized rant:

Ok so I'm on my 4th employee here in Malaysia, first I hired a trainee fresh out of college practically, seeing as how difficult it is for such people to find jobs with no experience (I was also miraculously hired straight out of college so wanted to give something back to the universe), turned out a bust, no effort, very passive, loads of mistakes, little to no prospect of improvement. Had to let her go after two probation periods. Second batch I said, no more trainees thanks, I'd rather not bother training someone from scratch, let's go for someone more experienced, so I hired someone with 10 years of experience (as a senior) and a medium experience person with some 5-6 years of experience. The junior person did her very best, was super professional, showed up on time, was willing to learn. She had some problems, but made up for it with effort. The senior person was the total opposite, showed up late, wasn't at her desk for hours at a time, kept receiving packages from online shopping at work, didn't finish her tasks on time, left for vacation without finishing or transferring her tasks, was making a lot of mistakes and didn't really know how to do things independently, even though she was supposed to be a senior (and her salary was of a senior). So I let her go after 2 probationary periods (she is now suing us for wrongful dismissal even though she was on a probation period, lol).

Then the junior quit because she found a better job and I had to find a replacement. I didn't feel like going through another recruitment process so the MD suggested someone who was already there, from another department that moved away and now they were struggling to find work for her and he didn't feel it was right to let her go so soon after hiring her. I was a bit wary since this was a person who was already on a permanent basis so no probationary period but I interviewed her and she seemed enthusiastic and smart.

3 months later, we are having problems. She is making stupid mistakes that I keep having to correct (and she never says ok, sorry about that, I'll make sure to pay more attention in the future). But a bigger problem for me and something I just can't understand is the work ethic. We are all forced to work from home so obviously it's not the same as being in the office but we are also all equipped with computers and messenger apps (Teams). So obviously, if I send you a message or an e-mail and you respond several hours later, I know you were not at your laptop working. This happened more than once (and of course, she never says, sorry I was [invent an obvious lie but at least try to justify it]).

Now, I don't want to be an *******, so I don't want to say anything about it for now, but I'm just wondering, what kind of person behaves like this? Not just the last one, but 3 out of 4. If you're hired on a good job, with a good salary in a good and stable company, isn't your primary focus to do everything possible to keep that job? I don't ask for much, really, just that someone shows they're at least trying and are taking things seriously. I just don't understand what could possibly be going through their minds. If my boss calls me I make sure I am available morning noon and night. Why? Because I not so much like my job as much as my salary and the roof over my head and I know that finding another job like this especially in these times is going to be extremely difficult, so I make sure that I do everything in my power for them to have a great difficulty in letting me go.

I don't understand why everyone doesn't think/act the same way. I thought maybe they come from well off families but it's not the case.

I am mystified.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:41 PM   #24432 (permalink)
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Just from knowing you here you're a prissy, passive aggressive nag so maybe you're just a terrible boss and nobody wants to work for you. I mean you're the common denominator here so...
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:52 PM   #24433 (permalink)
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Just a medium sized rant:

Ok so I'm on my 4th employee here in Malaysia, first I hired a trainee fresh out of college practically, seeing as how difficult it is for such people to find jobs with no experience (I was also miraculously hired straight out of college so wanted to give something back to the universe), turned out a bust, no effort, very passive, loads of mistakes, little to no prospect of improvement. Had to let her go after two probation periods. Second batch I said, no more trainees thanks, I'd rather not bother training someone from scratch, let's go for someone more experienced, so I hired someone with 10 years of experience (as a senior) and a medium experience person with some 5-6 years of experience. The junior person did her very best, was super professional, showed up on time, was willing to learn. She had some problems, but made up for it with effort. The senior person was the total opposite, showed up late, wasn't at her desk for hours at a time, kept receiving packages from online shopping at work, didn't finish her tasks on time, left for vacation without finishing or transferring her tasks, was making a lot of mistakes and didn't really know how to do things independently, even though she was supposed to be a senior (and her salary was of a senior). So I let her go after 2 probationary periods (she is now suing us for wrongful dismissal even though she was on a probation period, lol).

Then the junior quit because she found a better job and I had to find a replacement. I didn't feel like going through another recruitment process so the MD suggested someone who was already there, from another department that moved away and now they were struggling to find work for her and he didn't feel it was right to let her go so soon after hiring her. I was a bit wary since this was a person who was already on a permanent basis so no probationary period but I interviewed her and she seemed enthusiastic and smart.

3 months later, we are having problems. She is making stupid mistakes that I keep having to correct (and she never says ok, sorry about that, I'll make sure to pay more attention in the future). But a bigger problem for me and something I just can't understand is the work ethic. We are all forced to work from home so obviously it's not the same as being in the office but we are also all equipped with computers and messenger apps (Teams). So obviously, if I send you a message or an e-mail and you respond several hours later, I know you were not at your laptop working. This happened more than once (and of course, she never says, sorry I was [invent an obvious lie but at least try to justify it]).

Now, I don't want to be an *******, so I don't want to say anything about it for now, but I'm just wondering, what kind of person behaves like this? Not just the last one, but 3 out of 4. If you're hired on a good job, with a good salary in a good and stable company, isn't your primary focus to do everything possible to keep that job? I don't ask for much, really, just that someone shows they're at least trying and are taking things seriously. I just don't understand what could possibly be going through their minds. If my boss calls me I make sure I am available morning noon and night. Why? Because I not so much like my job as much as my salary and the roof over my head and I know that finding another job like this especially in these times is going to be extremely difficult, so I make sure that I do everything in my power for them to have a great difficulty in letting me go.

I don't understand why everyone doesn't think/act the same way. I thought maybe they come from well off families but it's not the case.

I am mystified.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:55 PM   #24434 (permalink)
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@charles:

Ok, I get how it's difficult to actually get someone's real character across in an online setting, but I think you have enough intelligence to conclude that me being "prissy" here is only ever connected to trying to get people to behave a little bit better towards each other. It's called empathy. In real life, especially towards my own employees, it translates as being quite careful and very lax about how I behave towards them (I was myself a victim of workplace harassment so am trying my best to behave the opposite of that and create a safe and comfortable work environment).

This is a case of people who are performing below (in my mind) quite low standards, and not even bothering to fulfil the very basic requirement of any employer, being there and trying.

So yah, I really don't think it's me...
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:41 PM   #24435 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2021, 07:38 AM   #24436 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:25 AM   #24437 (permalink)
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Adidas, they sound like dossers who are taking their positions for granted tbh, I'd sack them as well. Also credit to you for giving someone inexperienced a try even if it didn't work out.
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Old 02-20-2021, 12:20 PM   #24438 (permalink)
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My job is using 5 different temp agencies to recruit people and virtually all of them wash out if not within days then weeks. They can't find anyone. Its strange cause I've had a lot of temp jobs and this one is better than most you will find. They literally will hire you on after 3 months no BS. And the work itself isn't the worst either. And the pay is better than most other places. And still people wash out so quick. Get overwhelmed and quit . I try telling them it can seem hard at first you just have to get used to it but if you stick around and show improvement they'll hire you on. Doesn't matter. One by one they either quit or get fired for being useless. People keep saying "people just don't want to work anymore." I don't get it. That's nothing new. Nobody ever wanted to work. You do it cause you need the money. Next place the temps send you ain't gonna be much better than here.
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I consider a lot of people on here to be friends so I get irritated by strangers telling me how to converse with my friends.
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Old 02-20-2021, 04:25 PM   #24440 (permalink)
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