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i was wondering where the 'holy bacon wrap' was hehe

while it's easy for a skinny / athletic person to say 'suck it up and get therapy' the reality is generally a little more complicated. yes there are some lazy gluttonous fatties out there, but there are also plenty of people who simply cannot become skinny regardless of therapy and exercise.

i used to think the same way years ago. then i had to start watching a morbidly obese person walking to the bus stop every couple of mornings to get to the hospital. it's pretty sad to watch someone NEED to take a break twice while walking across a parking lot. this person should have been on a motorized scooter but instead took the initiative to try walking with a cane.

consider the self-loathing you would feel at having to see dozens of people who can move about without effort seeing you take a breather before getting halfway across the parking lot. then knowing they can hear you straining for breath as they try to avoid eye contact with you as you slowly walk by them, and that's when you're actually TRYING to do something about it.

eating healthy is also a lot more complicated than it seems if you've never learned how to shop for groceries or how to cook. for a skinny person to write it off as just some sort of emotional baggage that needs to be addressed and then *poof* not obese anymore makes me hope that person breaks their legs and gains 100lbs during the recovery process.

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Oh get off your moral high horse. And for the record, I tore my acl and spent 4 months on crutches, didn't gain a pound. Yes, I have pity for the people who are morbidly obese and physically can not walk more than 50 metres without having to stop. however, they still have to eat and ENORMOUS amount of food to maintain that weight, even without exercise at all. This is what I simply can not understand. Just don't eat as much. Go to a therapist to figure out what it is that is making you abuse food so much, and get help. It baffles me that people value their health so little as to even get to that point in the first place.

And as for education, that's a crock of sh*t. It doesn't take a genius to know that deep fried stuff is not going to be healthy. Everyone in the western world understands the concept of eating less and exercising to stay healthy. Maybe they just don't want to put the effort in, maybe they've gotten to the point where they have an addiction to food (see above paragraph about going to a therapist) but I just can't believe that with ALL the resources that are out there, that they actually dont know what is healthy and what isn't.

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Sneer

I'm just curious, why?

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Marry me??

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Kirby

There's nothing wrong with it.

I'm comfortable like this.
It makes it harder for me to get cold.
Girls like to hug me because I'm warm / soft. [high five]
People usually don't mess with me.
It's easy for people to notice me (good, because I dont like to start conversations)



It's just fun.

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I can understand all that, but don't you worry about the health issues associated withe being overweight?

For me, it's all about the health issues. I've got cancer, heart disease, and diabetes coming at me from both sides of the family, and carrying extra weight increases your chances for all of these. So I feel like I need to do everything I possible can to try to stave off serious health issues.

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Sneer

If you're comfortable in your skin thats great, its a pet hate of mine when overweight people complain about their weight.

Do you not worry about your health?

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Only gonna live once.

Might as well be comfortable.

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I suppose the meaning of that phrase is relative to the individual

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I completely agree with everything you are saying here. In essence, it not really not hard to eat healthy and exercise, and yes, for most people there are emotional issues involved in overeating. But...I do feel like you are minimizing the process of recognizing the problem and fixing it. It is hard because most overweight people deal with a deep-seated self-loathing that is not easy to shake. It's really not as easy as just recognizing that "Hey, I eat alot because my mom didn't hug me enough...screw that bitch. I'll just go buy some granola and go to the gym until I'm skinny and healthy again."


Most of them CAN'T stand to be that unhealthy.

I'm definitely not here to argue...as a person who has struggled with this though, I just want to say that basically what you are saying is true...it's just not quite as simple to handle as you are thinking it should be, if that makes sense.

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