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jacklovezhimself 03-20-2010 08:32 PM

And to think it's more common that people with uncircumsized penises are made fun of. This information will change high school locker rooms forever.

Guybrush 03-21-2010 11:07 AM

Well written post, Erica :)

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Originally Posted by Vegangelica
In the U.S., where 80% of adult males are circumicsed

Wow, I was quite surprised about this detail. I knew it was popular overseas, but I still thought the cut were a minority!

storymilo 03-21-2010 12:25 PM

VEGANGELICA-

I don't really support circumcision.... my post wasn't intended to come off that way. In fact, I think it's pretty stupid. (Unless there is some sort of valid medical reason for it)

I just think that as long as penises keep functioning, there are more important things to concentrate on.

VEGANGELICA 03-21-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo (Post 839708)
VEGANGELICA-

I don't really support circumcision.... my post wasn't intended to come off that way. In fact, I think it's pretty stupid. (Unless there is some sort of valid medical reason for it)

I just think that as long as penises keep functioning, there are more important things to concentrate on.

Oh, I didn't think you necessarily supported circumcision...but it sounded like you maybe didn't know of the benefits of having a foreskin, so I wanted to make sure you have a chance to learn information that I didn't know when I was your age or for many years afterwards.

I also feel it is important to note that when people cut off the foreskin, the foreskin *doesn't* function anymore. And there are many people who aren't happy with what is left...skin tags, painful erections, the scar, curvatures, discomfort during intercourse...plus, the knowledge that they were cut against their will.

Circumcising babies, also, isn't merely cutting: first, you strap down the baby's arms and legs on a circumstraint board (in a hospital circumcision); then you have to separate the foreskin from the glans, like sliding a knife under a fingernail. Finally, you crush or cut off the baby's foreskin, leaving the entire glans as a bleeding, open wound.

Pain anesthetics are *not* required by law during circumcisions of babies. In the U.S., many babies are subjected to cutting of their genitalia...and I do not hesitate to call it torture...without pain medication. In fact, even a doctor I interviewed about circumcisions he does in the Midwest told me he felt he was torturing babies when he didn't use any pain medication.

Certainly there may be more important causes than circumcision, though people can easily help work on different causes at the same time. I know circumcision is an important one to the boys and men who do feel harmed by what was done to them when they were powerless to make choices about their own bodies. I see the issue of circumcision very squarely as a human rights issue. And so, this issue is an important one to me, too. I know I would feel horribly violated if someone had cut off my clitoral hood (female foreskin) when I was a child.

storymilo 03-21-2010 01:12 PM

I think I pretty much agree with you.... just less radically.

And I know there are benefits of having a foreskin.... I have one!

Farfisa 03-21-2010 02:28 PM

I have "four" skins, oh ho ho...

Barnard17 03-21-2010 02:30 PM

I wouldn't have said having a breadth of references to cite on an issue is "radical" more informed. It's not like Vegan is stood on the streets waving a placard and screaming "HANDS OFF OUR PENII" every weekend.

Also, Vegan, I love you all the more for your previous post with the information in it.

storymilo 03-21-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnard17 (Post 839739)
It's not like Vegan is stood on the streets waving a placard and screaming "HANDS OFF OUR PENII" every weekend.

I dunno....

VEGANGELICA 03-21-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo (Post 839720)
I think I pretty much agree with you.... just less radically.

And I know there are benefits of having a foreskin.... I have one!

Yeay! :) One child saved from the scalpel and clamp!

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Originally Posted by Barnard17 (Post 839739)
I wouldn't have said having a breadth of references to cite on an issue is "radical" more informed. It's not like Vegan is stood on the streets waving a placard and screaming "HANDS OFF OUR PENII" every weekend.

Also, Vegan, I love you all the more for your previous post with the information in it.

And I love *you* all the more, Barnard, for loving *me* all the more for my previous post with the information in it.:)

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Originally Posted by storymilo (Post 839747)
I dunno....

Ha ha, Story! That is obviously a fake picture of me carrying a poster. Whenever *I* participate in weekend "HANDS OFF OUR PENII" rallies, my signs never say "owr" instead of "our!" And I write "Penii" on the handle.;)

storymilo 03-21-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 839771)
Ha ha, Story! That is obviously a fake picture of me carrying a poster. Whenever *I* participate in weekend "HANDS OFF OUR PENII" rallies, my signs never say "owr" instead of "our!" And I write "Penii" on the handle.;)

aw maaan..... I thought my ms paint skills were getting better:(


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