Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs

Sneer · 07-08-2009, 04:45 PM

Has anybody watched that video? It defies belief. (To anybody who hasnt, i strongly advise you dont, seriously)

Antonio · 07-08-2009, 04:49 PM

one of my friends is from Ukraine and told me about it. crazy shit

simplephysics · 07-08-2009, 05:03 PM

I fully intended on watching the videos until I read up on these sick fuckers & saw some of the hanged animal pictures, that's enough for me thanks.

Sneer · 07-08-2009, 05:10 PM

I genuinely regret watching it. One of the reasons being that what i saw will scar me for life, the other being that i feel it is an utterly immoral act to watch it. I concede, i initially wanted to watch it out of morbid curiosity, I did not think for a second it would be as horrific as it actually was. 10 seconds in and i was ashamed of myself. That poor guy.

Guybrush · 07-08-2009, 05:18 PM

The video where they kill a guy with hammer and screwdriver? Never ever in my life would I want to watch something like that. I also have a morbid curiosity, but I'm glad to say it's not quite that corrupted.

Not that I'm religious, but ff there is a hell, I hope they fry.

edit :

I strongly suggest noone watches that vid and if I see any links to it on the site, I will ban. For those who can't contain their curiosity, here's an article from Timesonline from someone who did watch it.

It took 1 min 47 seconds for my memory to become host to a horror that will never go

Freebase Dali · 07-08-2009, 09:10 PM

The main thing I find disturbing about it is the nonchalance at which the kids are committing murder.

The question I find myself asking is if there is truly evil in this world, or just no God to help us.
It can be only one of those two.

Either way... We're all fucked

Freebase Dali · 07-08-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu

I genuinely regret watching it. One of the reasons being that what i saw will scar me for life, the other being that i feel it is an utterly immoral act to watch it. I concede, i initially wanted to watch it out of morbid curiosity, I did not think for a second it would be as horrific as it actually was. 10 seconds in and i was ashamed of myself. That poor guy.

So for you, do you find it easier knowing stuff like this happens all the time, as long as you don't have to physically see it?
Or does the video shock some realization of mortality into you and make you realize that every single one of us is potentially the victim you saw in that video, and that everyone you meet is potentially the killer?

To me, I know this crap happens. Me seeing a video of it doesn't change that knowledge. I'm sickened every day of my life by the state of humanity. A video of what's happening behind the curtains isn't going to bring me out of some kind of placated fuzzy shell of a life I never pretended to live in, in the first place.

I say people (responsible people, not kids) need to watch this kind of thing and shock themselves into reality and quit living in this pseudo-security blanket of warm little fairy tales and cuddle bunnies, and get fucking wise.

We're all victims because we think it would never happen to us.

Guybrush · 07-08-2009, 09:50 PM

Fortunately, the sheep have a legal system and a way to punish the wolves, imperfect though it may be.

I'm also shocked by how easy it is for these kids to commit murder and torture, but I think what people need to watch is not these kids victimizing others, but rather these kids facing the consequences. It's a better lesson that society can and shall deal with monsters rather than accept some gloomy "fact" you're the eternal victim. These guys obviously don't deserve a place in society and should suffer for it, that's a ****ing lesson.

Freebase Dali · 07-08-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden

Fortunately, the sheep have a legal system and a way to punish the wolves, imperfect though it may be.

I'm also shocked by how easy it is for these kids to commit murder and torture, but I think what people need to watch is not these kids victimizing others, but rather these kids facing the consequences. It's a better lesson that society can and shall deal with monsters rather than accept some gloomy "fact" you're the eternal victim. These guys obviously don't deserve a place in society and should suffer for it, that's a ****ing lesson.

Unless you're voting for public execution, then I don't think we're going to learn anything new from seeing a court case and these guys being sentenced to life imprisonment or death. Everyone knows you get punished for breaking the law.

But if you find yourself surprised that there are people that are capable of doing this kind of thing and smiling the whole time like they're winning a game of ping-pong, then you damn sure better believe you're learning something. You're learning that people have the capacity to be animals without a conscience.
That's knowledge that will help you. It probably would have helped that guy in the video. But people get caught up in their own lives and forget that it's not so secure.
I'm not saying be afraid the rest of your life... But use this as an eye opener to force some situational awareness into our ignoring little brains and SAVE SOME LIVES. Possibly even our own.

I don't know about you... but I'd prefer not to wait until a crime has been committed just so I could show everyone the consequence.

Guybrush · 07-08-2009, 10:14 PM

I think you're trivializing what they did. I live in a society where the chance of this happening to you any random day of the week is practically zero. I don't know of any norwegian serial killers and they're not a feature of anyone's everyday life so I don't see why the lesson to learn here is to always be prepared for that horrible unpreparable near-nil chance of something like this happen. I know my mind is just not that dark.

I think it is important to know that you live in a society that raises people good or bad and even if it's near perfect, there's no guarantee you won't raise a monster every now and then. Maybe it's not even society's fault, it could be something about their biology that makes them so. The important thing then is that society is able to deal with that, preferably before violence and murder happens - but when that fails and the act has happened, society still owes it to the victims it failed to protect and the people who no longer feel safe to make an example and show that it does not accept this kind of stuff and will punish the guilty.

Always being prepared for the worst - except in rare cases - does not really make it better for anyone, not even yourself.

07-08-2009, 04:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs Has anybody watched that video? It defies belief. (To anybody who hasnt, i strongly advise you dont, seriously) __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

07-08-2009, 05:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	I genuinely regret watching it. One of the reasons being that what i saw will scar me for life, the other being that i feel it is an utterly immoral act to watch it. I concede, i initially wanted to watch it out of morbid curiosity, I did not think for a second it would be as horrific as it actually was. 10 seconds in and i was ashamed of myself. That poor guy. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

07-08-2009, 05:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	The video where they kill a guy with hammer and screwdriver? Never ever in my life would I want to watch something like that. I also have a morbid curiosity, but I'm glad to say it's not quite that corrupted. Not that I'm religious, but ff there is a hell, I hope they fry. edit : I strongly suggest noone watches that vid and if I see any links to it on the site, I will ban. For those who can't contain their curiosity, here's an article from Timesonline from someone who did watch it. It took 1 min 47 seconds for my memory to become host to a horror that will never go __________________ Something Completely Different

07-08-2009, 09:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	The main thing I find disturbing about it is the nonchalance at which the kids are committing murder. The question I find myself asking is if there is truly evil in this world, or just no God to help us. It can be only one of those two. Either way... We're all fucked __________________ Last edited by Freebase Dali; 07-08-2009 at 09:21 PM.

07-08-2009, 09:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Fortunately, the sheep have a legal system and a way to punish the wolves, imperfect though it may be. I'm also shocked by how easy it is for these kids to commit murder and torture, but I think what people need to watch is not these kids victimizing others, but rather these kids facing the consequences. It's a better lesson that society can and shall deal with monsters rather than accept some gloomy "fact" you're the eternal victim. These guys obviously don't deserve a place in society and should suffer for it, that's a ***ing lesson. __________________ Something Completely Different*

07-08-2009, 10:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I think you're trivializing what they did. I live in a society where the chance of this happening to you any random day of the week is practically zero. I don't know of any norwegian serial killers and they're not a feature of anyone's everyday life so I don't see why the lesson to learn here is to always be prepared for that horrible unpreparable near-nil chance of something like this happen. I know my mind is just not that dark. I think it is important to know that you live in a society that raises people good or bad and even if it's near perfect, there's no guarantee you won't raise a monster every now and then. Maybe it's not even society's fault, it could be something about their biology that makes them so. The important thing then is that society is able to deal with that, preferably before violence and murder happens - but when that fails and the act has happened, society still owes it to the victims it failed to protect and the people who no longer feel safe to make an example and show that it does not accept this kind of stuff and will punish the guilty. Always being prepared for the worst - except in rare cases - does not really make it better for anyone, not even yourself. __________________ Something Completely Different