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CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 06-22-2009 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 687788)
People today, they'll believe anything.

i know right

there are some weirdos out there who believe prog music is good and bald women are sexually attractive

WHOA

Hesher 06-22-2009 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by captain caveman (Post 687838)
i know right

there are some weirdos out there who believe prog music is good and bald women are sexually attractive

whoa

zing!

sleepy jack 06-22-2009 01:28 AM

Yeah those people are called bed wetters.

boo boo 06-22-2009 02:38 AM

I'm not stooping to your level anymore Ethan.

Freebase Dali 06-22-2009 03:09 AM

I don't mean to lead this thread into any kind of seriousness... 'cause really, I mean.. heh...
But:

I don't think time is a physical property in any way. I think that there is change in the physical aspects of things that is independent of an observational time-line, and that our only capacity of measuring them is dependent on a propensity to gauge those changes relatively.
I don't think time is a variable of an equation in which that equation is dependent in order to verify the reality of the equation... but only a variable that allows us, as people, to quantify it.

I'm not saying that a moving object is not subject to its distance between point A and B, I'm only stating that it is observable as a result of the function of relativity, but not dependent on our observation of it.

If time is accelerating, it is only change happening differently. We're just observing it in an accelerated capacity and relating it with a quantification.



I'm pretty drunk.
I don't even make sense to myself right now, but rest assured, I'm a genius and my last name is Christ. lol...

Kool_Dude_HaMeR 06-22-2009 07:49 AM

^that made perfect sense to me.

the worrying thing is I'm stone sober. :-/

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 06-22-2009 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 687773)
all the people who've ever talked to me about stuff like this have all shared one common trait... a complete inability to believe any of their theories without having someone else patting them on the head and telling them they're 'right' like it somehow matters. if they truly believed what they said, why would they need to propagate discussion with others?

That's very vague to say, 'stuff like this,' stuff like what? Quantum Physics, Conspiracy Theories, what?
You're prepared to make a complete generalization about every person who has a conspiracy theory, and not hear them out.

Dave, we are a very intelligent people, and just because we are more advanced now than at any previous time, doesn't mean we are in a Utopian society. Should Copernicus have stayed silent about the sun being the center of our solar system, and begrudgingly accepted the fixed Earth theory. I'm not saying I'm Copernicus, or any one of the thousands of other people who have written about what I'm mentioning.

So, give me a pat on the head, and I'll be sure to look up every source on this matter that I've read from, and even those I haven't yet heard from, and pat them on the head, too. This is far from an original idea. Empiricism has it's place in science but, honestly, I don't understand the people who go around shunning every conspiracy theory, before they even hear what it is.

Some people read the facts and make their mind up from there. Some will say, 'Oh, here we go, another conspiracy theory,' and completely ignore it. That's fine. However, some people blindly attack the conspiracy theory, and actually spend more time arguing against it than they did learning about it in the first place. This makes no sense to me.

Please, Mr. Dave be objective, but when you dismiss some idea just because it doesn't quite fit into your view of the world so far, it comes across as very elitist, like, 'we already know everything in the universe, why is this character thinking outside the lines of what we already know to be true?'

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 06-22-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction (Post 687903)
I don't think time is a physical property in any way. I think that there is change in the physical aspects of things that is independent of an observational time-line, and that our only capacity of measuring them is dependent on a propensity to gauge those changes relatively.

Right Track already mentioned in this thread that it is just our perception of time that is speeding up. This is true.
We will all eventually be ingratiated into the 4th and 5th dimensions, and from what I've read on it, we will basically no longer have a concept of time at that point, because, we will realize that time doesn't end, life doesn't end. Time goes on forever, life goes on forever. With 12 strands of DNA, you can time travel, you can space travel. Fancy machines aren't needed, your mind is the portal. Even if the universe eventually collapsed in on itself, we would at that point exist in non-physical dimensions, and remain untarnished. We will be sharing information with other Earthlike inhabited planets, or non earthlike, to better understand the universe, and how to love others, and set up economies and laws in non-discriminatory fashions.

Btw, I know I sound like I'm stating these as facts, and I'm not even 100% on it. It's more like 70/30. I'm hardly an expert. There are many intelligent sources on this matter. Google time acceleration, or dimensional shift, and read some info. from people who are much, much smarter than me.

lucifer_sam 06-22-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 688052)
That's very vague to say, 'stuff like this,' stuff like what? Quantum Physics, Conspiracy Theories, what?
You're prepared to make a complete generalization about every person who has a conspiracy theory, and not hear them out.

Dave, we are a very intelligent people, and just because we are more advanced now than at any previous time, doesn't mean we are in a Utopian society. Should Copernicus have stayed silent about the sun being the center of our solar system, and begrudgingly accepted the fixed Earth theory. I'm not saying I'm Copernicus, or any one of the thousands of other people who have written about what I'm mentioning.

So, give me a pat on the head, and I'll be sure to look up every source on this matter that I've read from, and even those I haven't yet heard from, and pat them on the head, too. This is far from an original idea. Empiricism has it's place in science but, honestly, I don't understand the people who go around shunning every conspiracy theory, before they even hear what it is.

Some people read the facts and make their mind up from there. Some will say, 'Oh, here we go, another conspiracy theory,' and completely ignore it. That's fine. However, some people blindly attack the conspiracy theory, and actually spend more time arguing against it than they did learning about it in the first place. This makes no sense to me.

Please, Mr. Dave be objective, but when you dismiss some idea just because it doesn't quite fit into your view of the world so far, it comes across as very elitist, like, 'we already know everything in the universe, why is this character thinking outside the lines of what we already know to be true?'

it's not about being objective when you're a conspiracy theorist. it's about having the willingness to believe in things so batshit crazy that there's absolutely no evidence that can be provided to support or refute the claims. and in that sense, it's no wonder why people don't take you seriously.

come back when you explore a hypothesis that can be scientifically verified.

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 06-22-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 688060)
it's not about being objective when you're a conspiracy theorist. it's about having the willingness to believe in things so batshit crazy that there's absolutely no evidence that can be provided to support or refute the claims. and in that sense, it's no wonder why people don't take you seriously.

come back when you explore a hypothesis that can be scientifically verified.

That's what people said to Copernicus, or the guy who said the Earth is round, and they probably would have had them burned at the stake. I realize a hugh difference is that nowadays it would be much easier to prove fixed Sun or spherical earth. Much of what I'm saying is what will be happening in the future, but is kind of happening now. So, for that reason, it's very hard to prove. Meteorologists can barely see 3 days into the future.

The reason I believe these rather crazy sounding ideas, is because I saw a man giving a presentation of this information. His presentation included info. stating that we have already used alien technology (from crashed spaceship) to travel into the future, and when people get to the year 2012, they experience a deep enlightening. They feel like all the info. in the universe is available to them.

So, I know that sounds a little wacky to go off what one guy said. Sometimes, I just have gut feelings about certain people, about their truthfulness, I should probably give the link here, it's:

YouTube - The 2012 Enigma by David Wil**** Pt. 01

10 parts. Enjoy. :)


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