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Freebase Dali 06-23-2009 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 688653)
THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS THE ONLY THING HOLDING US BACK



and MB's capsfilter


Chiefly so.

Guybrush 06-23-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 688059)
With 12 strands of DNA, you can time travel, you can space travel.

What's this about twelve strands of DNA? That would actually be a reduction seeing as most people have 46 strands. What you mean is a normal person has 2 of each chromosome (except men who have X and Y sex chromosomes) and you don't know why this is .. Well, I can tell you, it's because you inherit one from your father and one from your mother. ;)

Having twelve of each chromosome does not mean that you improve. All it means is that you get more copies of the same genes. There are many organisms out there (particularly plants) that have more than 12 versions of each chromosome and we don't see them travelling through space and time in anything but the normal way. Even if you only had one strand per chromosome, if you were a woman, you could still have all the genes of a normal person of your sex present. Male honey bees are haploid (having one set) while their sisters are diploid (two sets) but they're still functional bees.

There are humans who only have one sex chromosome (some women only have one X) and that works fine. There are also people who have extra sex chromosomes like XXX and that also works because the extra X chromosomes (there are then 2 extras) are silenced in a process where proteins pack the DNA of the extra strand so tightly that it's no longer accessible for reading by other nuclear proteins.

Extra chromosomes can also have detrimental effects, the most common being Down's Syndrome in which people get an extra copy of chromosome 21.

Anyways, 12 copies of each chromosome or even more would not be good in humans. Most animals (aside from some lizards, flatworms and other exceptions) seem to do better with pairs of chromosomes. Those who have more still don't have as many as 12. It could have part to do with the physical environment inside our cell nucleuses, DNA takes up space and stuffing more in there might mean need for larger cells with possibly more mutations and crossover events where bits of some chromosomes stick on to other chromosomes. It also would give us a tremendous amount of DNA which we frankly do not need because it'd just be copies of what we already had - why have 12 when you get by on 2. For a human being to work with 12 copies per strand, aside from other problems, the extra DNA would have to be silenced as I wrote further up, otherwise he or she would overexpress many genes which would likely be fatal in a multitude of ways.

What I'm saying is what you're writing is idiotic, also from a biology point of view :laughing:

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As others have pointed out, we already experience the 4th dimension which is generally regarded as time, but what is the 5th supposed to be?

boo boo 06-23-2009 02:40 AM

A lot of this is just pseudo science BS.

It does feel to me, like time goes by faster now than it did when I was a kid, but that's just a human perception thing.

right-track 06-23-2009 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 688653)
THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS THE ONLY THING HOLDING US BACK



and MB's capsfilter

NOT IF YOU CONCENtraTE.

Edit: damn! :(

Guybrush 06-23-2009 07:46 AM

I think people sometimes think of dimensions as some other realms where there are fantastic things and whatnot. I think to get back down to earth a little, you should think of dimension as something that explains where you are. We exist in 4 dimensions and to explain the exact location of yourself at a point in time, you need to explain it by those 4 dimensions. If you imagine there being coordinates for everywhere in the universe, then in theory you could give your position by x, y, z coordinates and the point of time which for me now could be about ~15:41 on june 23rd 2009.

Some particles behave differently and are unpredictable when viewed or measured from those 4 traditional dimensions. Then you can start to think wether there is one or more other dimensions you need to know about before you can fully understand and predict them.

However, I don't think it means that we or these particles can potentially or occasionally exist in wonderful realms where humans can exist with 12 copies of their chromosomes. I'd love to see some logic behind this stuff, though. If this passes for pseudo scince, then the "pseudo scientists" should be embarassed, possibly more than usual.

Freebase Dali 06-24-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 688755)
I think people sometimes think of dimensions as some other realms where there are fantastic things and whatnot. I think to get back down to earth a little, you should think of dimension as something that explains where you are. We exist in 4 dimensions and to explain the exact location of yourself at a point in time, you need to explain it by those 4 dimensions. If you imagine there being coordinates for everywhere in the universe, then in theory you could give your position by x, y, z coordinates and the point of time which for me now could be about ~15:41 on june 23rd 2009.

Some particles behave differently and are unpredictable when viewed or measured from those 4 traditional dimensions. Then you can start to think wether there is one or more other dimensions you need to know about before you can fully understand and predict them.

However, I don't think it means that we or these particles can potentially or occasionally exist in wonderful realms where humans can exist with 12 copies of their chromosomes. I'd love to see some logic behind this stuff, though. If this passes for pseudo scince, then the "pseudo scientists" should be embarassed, possibly more than usual.

All the proof is in a neon green box stored in heaven.

(it has glowsticks and ravers guarding it)

butterflyring09 06-24-2009 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Miltamec Soundsquinaez (Post 687479)
I don't really talk about these things in my day to day life, but I figured, 'why not bring it up on here?' and talk to open minded people about it? You don't have to believe any of this, but if you wish to comment or add something, please be respectful, and show a willingness to learn.

Time seems to be speeding up, and physical vibrations are increasing as the Earth is moving into the 4th and 5th dimensions. Many of us already have the potential to experience the 4th and 5th dimensions. Their qualities are compassion, love, and ESP. Eventually, we will all reach these states of consciousness. We will know longer have the need to communicate with words because our thoughts will be readable on a conscious level.

Humans have inhabited this planet for a few million years, and during that time, and up until a few years ago, we existed entirely in the 3rd dimension, the material world. However, we have already begun to enter the new Golden Age, a time for peace and prosperity, and growth at the cellular level. Moving from the 3rd dimension to the 5th dimension only takes a few years. (idk why) Our DNA has 2 strands currently, and at the 5th dimension we will have 12 strands. Needless to say, that's an incredible rate of growth in an incredibly short period of time.

Anyways, I just wanted to see if anyone else has heard of anything like this, and if it's even a slight possibility, it seemed worth it to bring it up.

yes, i've heard of it. Are you indigo, crystal, elfen or which energy?

A lot of people say Im mixed with all three. hehe. That's becoming less and less importat though. lol

I believe you've posted this in a perfect place. Music is what? 5th or 6th dimension i hear.

We're moving closer and closer to oneness. Or, in other words, we're just waking up and becoming more and more aware of it.

Hey, have you heard of xxxxxxxx? That music is amazing. If you haven't heard of it, look it up on youtube. It's truly healing. It shows that dna is not just a simple thing holding our genetic information, but it's also a vessel of communication to the oneness of all.:p:

Thanks for you post.

right-track 06-24-2009 01:15 PM

I've took the liberty of undeleting and editing the spam of the above post.
I believe it should be preserved as a monument to the Tomorrow People.

lucifer_sam 06-24-2009 01:52 PM

is that what these idiots are calling themselves?

this shit makes Dianetics look realistic.

Comus 06-24-2009 01:58 PM

You don't happen to have registered as Francis Begbie at Eyes on Final Fantasy back in 2005 have you?


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