Why Satan loves you more than Jesus. (rock, show, quote)

jesus · 02-01-2005, 10:16 AM

http://objective.jesussave.us/kidz.html

read the part about the beetle that can shoot boiling-hot toxic chemicals out of its butt. that's the best part.

blackTshirt · 02-02-2005, 12:35 AM

said it's wrong to talk about that cause people call "christians" some stupid men who pretended to do what the Bible says but kill and destroy instead. it is wrong because that's not what christian means, at least in my opinion. and how can someone compare those men back in the 17th century with modern people? like "christians used to kill witches" blah blah. i mean yeah, it's true but that doesn't mean it's wrong to believe in God or anything. and about the marilyn manson thing... people who say kids commit suicide or do stupid things after listening to his music...isn't it similar to the "people who do stupid things after reading the Bible"? it's all about how you interpret things and whether you use your brain or not (talking about those who blame manson or God for what people do)

jibber · 02-02-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackTshirt

said it's wrong to talk about that cause people call "christians" some stupid men who pretended to do what the Bible says but kill and destroy instead. it is wrong because that's not what christian means, at least in my opinion. and how can someone compare those men back in the 17th century with modern people? like "christians used to kill witches" blah blah. i mean yeah, it's true but that doesn't mean it's wrong to believe in God or anything. and about the marilyn manson thing... people who say kids commit suicide or do stupid things after listening to his music...isn't it similar to the "people who do stupid things after reading the Bible"? it's all about how you interpret things and whether you use your brain or not (talking about those who blame manson or God for what people do)

Genocide has been commited many times throuhout history, not just in the 17th century. As we speak there are many countries going through wars fought over the basis of religion, so it's incredibly easy to compare what was happening in the times of the crusades and other mass murders based on religious grounds to the present time. And you're argument that the poeple comitting these crimes aren't "real christians" doesn't hold much weight. All it takes is for enough people to go along with it. FYI, the crusades were carried out under the direction of the pope, you can't be more of a "real christian" than the pope can you? Again, you've completely missed the point. I'm not saying that people automatically feel compelled to comit crimes against humanity after reading the bible, the koran, or whatever. I'm saying that religion can be and has been used as an excuse to commit violent acts, and we have to talk about these events in order to prevent them from happening in the future, something we're not even close to accomplishing.

covle · 02-02-2005, 04:42 AM

your still not getting what shes saying. religion has caused multiple atrocities, all religions, not just christianity...well, probably not buddism but hey lets overlook that one. you said true christians wouldnt do that? in such times a "true" christian would be seen as one who would and does do it, and anyone who doesnt labelled as evil or anti-christ etc

blackTshirt · 02-03-2005, 01:57 AM

i understand what you mean and i believe your fave line is "Again, you've completely missed the point." everytime someone disagrees. I GOT THE POINT ok? i'm not dumb. the pope can be wrong and several popes WERE wrong many times. and of course you can be more of a real christian than the pope. what? couldn't you be prettier than Miss World? course you can...the pope is just the person symbolizing the true christian (in my opinion, course) and he's a person so he makes mistakes and if he kills people it doesn't mean he is such a good fellow, right? christians don't kill, if they do, they're not christians. that's what i wanna say. and you're right, religion is just their motivation

jibber · 02-03-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackTshirt

i understand what you mean and i believe your fave line is "Again, you've completely missed the point." everytime someone disagrees. I GOT THE POINT ok? i'm not dumb. the pope can be wrong and several popes WERE wrong many times. and of course you can be more of a real christian than the pope. what? couldn't you be prettier than Miss World? course you can...the pope is just the person symbolizing the true christian (in my opinion, course) and he's a person so he makes mistakes and if he kills people it doesn't mean he is such a good fellow, right? christians don't kill, if they do, they're not christians. that's what i wanna say. and you're right, religion is just their motivation

I only said that you missed the point because you stated again that we shouldn't talk about these events because the perpetrators are not real christians.

Yellow Card · 02-07-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jibber

I only said that you missed the point because you stated again that we shouldn't talk about these events because the perpetrators are not real christians.

The perpertrators were not real christians.
They said they were commiting the 'crimes' in gods name to 'justify' their actions, as simple as that.

God rocks

hookers with machineguns · 02-03-2005, 09:20 AM

Yes, and true muslims would never kill americans "in the name of Allah". This is not religion, it is simply religious extremism. THe bible, for example, is interpreted in millions of different ways. Some passages say one thing to you, and something totally different to another. Radical interpretations of the Koran and The Bible lead certain individuals to radical conclusions. As we all know, it's extremely difficult (if not impossible) to try and intervene with someone's ideologies. Hm, someones already said something like this before. Oh well. Repetition is good, in this case.

sleepy jack · 02-03-2005, 11:00 PM

My thoughts on the sitiuation short and to the point

god=Fairy tale
devil=bad guy in fairy tale
all around conclusiion=ITS ALL LIES

jibber · 02-07-2005, 05:40 PM

well, after this weekend I'm a firm believer in the Snow Gods, finally, after praying for weeks, we FINALLY got snow! 50 cm of powder in ONE WEEKEND! I was skiing freshies all weekend long, I haven't skied pow that deep in sooo long, knee deep everywhere, almost waist deep in some places. WOOT! Yeah I'm still really psyched about the amazing weekend I had, and sooo looking forward to skiing next weekend.

02-02-2005, 12:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
blackTshirt The Randomness Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: romania.. shut up Posts: 845	said it's wrong to talk about that cause people call "christians" some stupid men who pretended to do what the Bible says but kill and destroy instead. it is wrong because that's not what christian means, at least in my opinion. and how can someone compare those men back in the 17th century with modern people? like "christians used to kill witches" blah blah. i mean yeah, it's true but that doesn't mean it's wrong to believe in God or anything. and about the marilyn manson thing... people who say kids commit suicide or do stupid things after listening to his music...isn't it similar to the "people who do stupid things after reading the Bible"? it's all about how you interpret things and whether you use your brain or not (talking about those who blame manson or God for what people do) __________________ My rims never spin, to the contrary You'll find that they're quite stationary.

02-02-2005, 04:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
covle Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 331	your still not getting what shes saying. religion has caused multiple atrocities, all religions, not just christianity...well, probably not buddism but hey lets overlook that one. you said true christians wouldnt do that? in such times a "true" christian would be seen as one who would and does do it, and anyone who doesnt labelled as evil or anti-christ etc __________________ LIVE.LOVE.BURN.DIE. whoa...i quoted atreyu, that means im hardcore. look how hardcore i am!! thats hardcore...XXX

02-03-2005, 01:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
blackTshirt The Randomness Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: romania.. shut up Posts: 845	i understand what you mean and i believe your fave line is "Again, you've completely missed the point." everytime someone disagrees. I GOT THE POINT ok? i'm not dumb. the pope can be wrong and several popes WERE wrong many times. and of course you can be more of a real christian than the pope. what? couldn't you be prettier than Miss World? course you can...the pope is just the person symbolizing the true christian (in my opinion, course) and he's a person so he makes mistakes and if he kills people it doesn't mean he is such a good fellow, right? christians don't kill, if they do, they're not christians. that's what i wanna say. and you're right, religion is just their motivation __________________ My rims never spin, to the contrary You'll find that they're quite stationary.

02-03-2005, 09:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,738	Yes, and true muslims would never kill americans "in the name of Allah". This is not religion, it is simply religious extremism. THe bible, for example, is interpreted in millions of different ways. Some passages say one thing to you, and something totally different to another. Radical interpretations of the Koran and The Bible lead certain individuals to radical conclusions. As we all know, it's extremely difficult (if not impossible) to try and intervene with someone's ideologies. Hm, someones already said something like this before. Oh well. Repetition is good, in this case. __________________ LASTFM

02-07-2005, 05:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,544	well, after this weekend I'm a firm believer in the Snow Gods, finally, after praying for weeks, we FINALLY got snow! 50 cm of powder in ONE WEEKEND! I was skiing freshies all weekend long, I haven't skied pow that deep in sooo long, knee deep everywhere, almost waist deep in some places. WOOT! Yeah I'm still really psyched about the amazing weekend I had, and sooo looking forward to skiing next weekend. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

02-01-2005, 10:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
jesus cat addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,024	http://objective.jesussave.us/kidz.html read the part about the beetle that can shoot boiling-hot toxic chemicals out of its butt. that's the best part.