Dude, you want to open pandora's box? XD

It is true that I am dismayed when people, usually due to religious beliefs or oppression, cover their body to "look attractive" and "appropriate." I oppose unegalitarian laws that force women to cover more of their body than men. At last the Unfan and I may have found a point of agreement (GASP!).

For example, indecency laws in the U.S. force women to cover their chests while men can go out in public shirtless (regardless of the size of *their* breasts). This sexist law is the same in theory, although not in degree, as laws in conservative Muslim countries that force women to cover their whole bodies/hair/even faces. If men can be topless, than women should be able to be topless, also. If men can show their hair, then women should be able to, also.

If people feel it is attractive for women to cover up their bodies/breasts in public, then that should be a *choice* and not one that is forced on women. I feel that women covering the body in the name of fashion/decency is unattractive not because of appearance but because of the underlying belief that the sexes do not deserve the same rights and privileges...a belief that I find extremely unattractive.

Yeah I know that I'm using her as an example of orange tans, or is that too much to handle?

Way too much to handle. :wavey:

The whole bed-head on purpose thing.... some guys pull it off, but here it just looks stupid and pretentious.

And, it looks like he's wearing makeup...


*gag*

Hahaha. xD I think he is wearing make-up.

For some reason, I have a feeling he doesn't get a choice of what his hair look like most of the time. =P Do you get that vibe?

ya. Methinks he should never have been cast as Edward. Actually, I don't think the book was ever good enough to be made into a movie in the first place. Its really pre-teen literature that is poorly written to say the least. But thats a discussion for another day.

Poor guy.

Seriously.

When I first saw the trailer for Twilight I laughed my f*cking ass off.

He looks 1000x better here.

http://icons.iconator.com/71/ICONATO...8453e06e97.jpg

:love:

He loos like he has yet to experience puberty.

Or food.

That's not the point, guiz.

Hehehe. I know.

<3

His hair does look less.. gross. And he's not wearing insane amounts of make-up.

I'm not into the whole makeup on guys things. Hell, I think most women wear too much of it. I wouldn't be opposed to human beings actually walking around in public with their actual faces on display...

But I think that's too much to ask.
What with how fake the world and all its people really are.

My mom always told me that make-up should eccentuate your features, not cover them.

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I'm not really a fan of makeup... most of the girls I know look better without it.

i'm pretty sure he's wearing make up because he is in the role of a vampire,....i'm just sayin

as for guys with make me,....no thank you

as for me with make up,.....i love it

"real" vampires don't need makeup cuz they are just drop dead gorgous naturally (or supernaturaly as the case may be)...with ivory skin...yummy. Since Edward (and Bella for that matter) are shallow characters without much personality anyway, they should have been able to find an appropriately amazing looking guy to play the part. They did a good job with Jacob tho ( i haven't actually seen the movies, but the girl who sits next to me in Bio has a pic of Jacob on her binder and I'd have to agree that yes... he is fine...)

and Cedric still looks like he has makeup on.

http://thesituationist.files.wordpre.../11/nylons.jpg

I don't think anyone has mentioned nylons yet. Occasionally, very occasionally, they can look good but by and large they look horrible to me. They just make women's legs look weird.

You, my friend, appear to be having a misanthropic moment. *I'm* not fake, if that helps you feel any better. I think many people don't intend to be fake, but they may be very insecure (or vain...or both) and out of that erupts make-up.

I agree make-up is odd...covering up the real person, as if people aren't attractive as they are. Has someone shown a picture yet of a woman wearing foundation so heavily that it stops abruptly on her neck causing an obvious distinction between the "make-up" zone and real skin? I see that occasionally and think, "How sad." The make-up really *is* like a mask.

I don't understand the rationale behind lipstick. I mean, it's supposed to make you look sexy and kissable and all, but it wouldn't taste good to actually *kiss* someone with lipstick on because that stuff tastes horrible. So anyone who wears lipstick seems to be saying, "Yeah, I'm hot and sexy. Come on and let's get it ON!" ... but then the lipstick is preventing the very thing the lipstick advertises. To amuse myself I like to imagine people whom I see wearing bright red lipstick kissing someone passionately with the result being that they both end up with splotches of lipstick smeared all over their faces. Ooo...so glamorous...NOT! What's the point of having a face covered with make-up so you can't kiss or else you'll muss up the make-up, and you can't cry or else your mascara will run?

Nylons are an interesting cultural phenomenon left over, I think, from when women in the 1920s were starting to wear short skirts and yet didn't want to have naked legs (SCANdalous!!), so the idea of "nylons" (and shaving legs) developed. What use do nylons have? They don't really keep you warm. I suppose they wick sweat away from shoewear. I've heard claims that they can help reduce symptoms of vericose veins. Meh...I'm not convinced. I think it may be a big conspiracy concocted by nylon companies...but I'd have to investigate to see if my hypothesis is correct.

I like the fact that during WWII women just painted a stripe up their legs in the back to make it look kind of like they were wearing nylons, since nylon was being used for parachuttes. Chuckle. The funny things people do in the name of beauty!

In England during the war, women would do anything for U.S. parachutes...apparently.
Gravy browning was a poor substitute too.

Besides all that...they are really effing uncomfortable and if your legs aren't perfectly smooth and hairless when you put them on they itch like hell.

In short...I believe they are from the devil.

i dont know yall. i think a little make-up and lipstick is so hot. Women who wear nylons and and high heels are sexy as hell. If i wanted no make-up and hairy legs i would date guys.

oh.. i got one... what is up with women who shave off their eyebrows then draw those scary ones on? I was at the pool and this girl got in, her fake brows washed off. she looked like a penis. haha

Sometimes you just want to look pretty though. xD

If you go to a special event or something, you're not always expecting to get it ON! =P

i must agree. on occasion though. women who dress like that alot are usually annoying and spoiled. i like dressing up at the weekend though. :D

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Say, VeggieLover and savannah, this is interesting because my reaction to men vs. women wearing makeup is exactly the opposite of yours. If I see a man wearing makeup I partly think, cool, he's brave, and I find bravery very attractive. Someone with his own style, like Adam Ant, the singer, back in his heyday, always appealed to me. If I see a woman wearing makeup, then I...well, I guess it is so common that I don't really notice it much...or I start thinking about how it would taste (not good), as I mentioned in a previous post! :)

You're not?!

:p:

Hey wad--it actually sounds refreshingly forward-thinking to believe that the only difference between men and women comes down to whether they wear make-up or have their leg hair! What happens, though, when you wake up in the morning and the "woman" next to you is sportin' no facial goop and "her" unshaven leghair stubble is starting to feel like a manly 5 o'clock shadow? What then? Will love conquer all...or will you reclassify said woman as man and run screaming from the room? Does makeup just "get people in the door" and then they can be their true selves once you love them?

Hey hey.

Behave. =P

Vegan - who was talking about love? All I'm saying is I like a girl who dolls herself up every now and then. You can try all you want but you will never convince me that there is anything wrong with that. Btw my current girlfriend occasionally misses
A day or two of shaving,honestly I do find it unattractive. I don't say anything because I'm
Sure there are plenty of things about me she finds unappealing.

I disagree, I think they can be super sexy, depending on what kind, how they're worn and who's wearing them.

That's not what he's saying, he's just saying there's nothing wrong with dressing sexy.

They can sometimes be made to look sexy in photos. In real life not so much. And in the context of trying to fool around with someone who is wearing a pair, just no.

I've seen women in person who look very sexy with it.

In fact I lot of the things mentioned here can look good on some women, it really depends on the individual. Some people can make anything look good, and some people can't. A lot of the stuff mentioned here only really bothers me when it's accomplying what is already a polished turd to begin with.

Without a skirt no woman looks sexy in nylons no matter how good looking she may be otherwise.

Hello wad,
I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with liking it when someone dolls herself up every now and then...I was just amused that the way you stated it made it sound as if you might as well date a guy if a woman doesn't shave or wear make-up: "If i wanted no make-up and hairy legs i would date guys."

My point was that, like I feel you essentially say above, there is more to a person than just superficial externalities...and people who feel the whole person is worth more than those separate parts will often overlook or accept what they don't find so attractive...such as stubbly legs when a girlfriend misses shaving for a day or two.

Fair enough, it was really more of a joke. I tend to do that when I'm trying to get a point across probably why no one takes me serious. Lol

What do hairy legs have to do with anything?

idk, this all kind of started when i posted a pic of a make-up wearing Edward (i don't know his real name...oops) and that got into make up and nylons and now we're talking about hairy legs and shallow expectations of a mate etc....

Hmm as i was typing that i decided that the reason guys don't look good in makeup is A) because im just not used to it and B) guy features tend to be a lot stronger and domineering of the face, when makeup accentuates that (such as making the lips very red) that feature looks even bigger and takes over the face. On women, features (tend) to be smaller and more delicate so makeup (done correctly) doesnt take over the face. just a thought.

Yeah but they can look great with a skirt.

Didn't you just reiterate his statement?

No I just say yeah before every other post.

That's not sarcasm that's actually the truth. My grammar plain sucks, that's all.

I think chicks can be hot with nylons even when they're going for the whore look.

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Ok, ESPECIALLY when they're going for the whore look.