VEGANGELICA

Hey keyleigh!

First, the short answer to your question about your biology teacher: she was wrong. Well-planned vegan diets, which include vitamin B-12, are healthful.

The issue of horse hair for violin bows relates to the larger issue of whether people are allowed to slaughter horses. This has recently been hotly debated here in the U.S. Many people, including myself, feel horses deserve a better end than being slaughtered for flesh and hair after having served humans throughout their lives.

I do not usually try to prevent carnivores from killing other animals...unless the prey is a pet or a human child! :-) I do wish nature were different, though. It may seem fine if you are the cat, but pretty horrible if you are the mouse. I can't forget the mouse, even as I am glad that the cat is alive. I do not want to kill an animal to feed a carnivore, including a cat.

Urban. Hello. Yes, I agree with you that it is probably healthier for a carnivorous pet to eat fresh flesh than any kind of canned food, whether it is vegetarian canned food or is the flesh of rendered, slaughtered animals too ill or spoiled to make it into the human food chain.

Considering vegetarian pet food for a cat isn’t something I would do to try to prove a point, but instead to try to reduce my involvement in the hurting of others. If my pet cat could be well-nourished by and enjoy eating vegetarian cat food, I see only positives from that situation. Except for the slaughter-house owners and shareholders.

I actually would have no problem with humans being used as pet food! As long as they agreed to this outcome in advance. Better than being saturated with toxic embalming fluids and buried in plastic caskets.

People in the U.S. can buy dog and cat meat, too, #9, and apparently do. Google “Puppymeat.” Why and how we separate animals (including people) into classes of killable and/or edible is a basic question that interests me, too.

Kayleigh, your feelings for a pet animal sound like the feelings I have every time I see a pig or a cow who will be slaughtered. I see them enjoying themselves and know people will end these animals' lives not for need, but for desire.

Should whether we kill an animal or not be determined primarily by how strong people's feelings are for that animal? Or should we use other criteria, too? And let’s say you felt for a wide variety of animals the same way you feel for dogs. How might this change your eating habits? What would you do, surrounded by a world where people felt nothing for dogs, cats, pet birds, piglets, or any animal you cared for? Would you continue to eat them, or would you find another way?

You are very right, mr dave, that children growing up on farms...even farmers...may view cows as a “pet” animals, which I’d say are animals you want to care for for their own sake, not just primarily to benefit people. Just like Cadrian said above when describing the pig he raised and named Junior.

I agree that altruism usually does feel good, and so is self-serving in this respect. The emotional payback I get from being vegan is that I feel I am living more consistently in line with a feeling I’ve had since I was little: I want to be kind to animals. Also, my not eating animals reduces slightly the number of animals raised as livestock, due to supply and demand.

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Sansa Stark

Guess so.

I like my vegan chili No one in my house has the decency to like, ever take meat out of the things we eat at dinner so I always have to make my own food

CanwllCorfe

I'm in the same boat. It really sucks when it comes to things like spaghetti and lasagna because I LOVE italian.. but there's always meat in it. Lasagna is worse though because I have to dismantle it and THEN take out the meat before I can eat it.

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Arya Stark

Same here!
My mom uses bacon to flavour some things.
Which is an unmistakeable taste, but it hardly adds the flavour she says it adds.
I used to eat meat, I'd know the difference.
Still, she does it everytime.

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ElephantSack

Yeah, my sister went through the same kind of thing. And I dig vegetables and meat alternatives as well, and I'm not the kind of person that lets people who eat fish and chicken get away with calling themselves vegetarians. That's bullshit. I just dig variety and balance. How old are you anyway?

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gogojessicat

meat is ****ing delicious. its not murder. its just delicious. the end.

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NumberNineDream

Is killing a mosquito, murder ?

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Cadrian

I have a dream to one day quit eating beef but that's only a dream, thats because I think its overrated.... I mean it has small amount of flavor per its effects it had on the body.

When it comes to Meat being Murder.... I think every person that eats meat needs to kill what they eat at least once. You'll appreciate it more. It hurts me to watch someone throw away unfinished meat. Its a waste of a life.

I grew up only eating deer at home and usually only pork that was in the house was the 2 pigs we killed every year.We didn't have beef in the house still my parents got a divorce when I was 17.

I killed my first deer when I was 10, I remember when I killed it, I watched it die, breath hard and watch it eyes stop quivering, I remember it because it hurt me as a kid that I had did that. After that I was covered in it warm blood and had its testicles put around my neck on a rope to celebrate my first kill. It is my families lifestyle and it saved us a lot of money by not having to buy beef and I always thought hunting has gave me a better understanding of the world.

Pigs were the worse, the saying bleed like a stuck pig is a underrated saying. Especially because we raised them... I made a mistake of naming one junior after me. Gees when my dad slit his throat it broke me.

Rabbits sucked too.... Straight up Hammer.

I guess What I was getting at is to eat meat something has to die.... I think people need to experience the death and see what is caused from their want of meat before they eat it. People would throw less away and not take it for granted.

What I don't get... is people bitching about other people eating meat. Do You bitch at a lion for killing the zebra? or the crocodile that eats the baby monkey? Its Life. I don't give Vegans sh*t when they get the Vaginas all over them from not eating meat. They shouldnt get mad if I am eating some cube steak.

Like Conan was saying I think Industrial meat is a little much, I dont think we are suppose to eat as much meat as we do but its just so damn good and filling. I mean I am not sure if Cave Men were able to kill enough to eat meat for every meal.

Sansa Stark

Arghhhhhh!

You have my respect for this sir.

I don't need to eat meat to live, I'm privilegedto not have to eat it to survive. If I were in a situation where I did need to eat meat to survive, I would have to force myself to do so, but I'd do it. ****, you all have to admit in an extreme situation where you'd be forced to human flesh to live, you all would.