Is Meat Really Murder?

~~Dirty~~ · 02-16-2011, 08:38 PM

After reading and participating in this thread, i've ended up not feeling bad for animals, meat eatesr, or veggieheads... just MuzicForums lol.

If not eating meat works for some people, then great. The idea of not wanting to kill animals for food is stupid in my opinion though, animals kill other animals for food constantly. Some would say it doesn't mean we should, but like I've said before, we are on top of the food chain and I think it's best to use that to our advantage. Supplements and whatever are good but I think the best sources of proteins come in the form of lean meats. Hell, I went on a diet of all meat for awhile and my body looked and felt amazing and I'm gonna do it again this summer. It's called the Ketosis diet, and it's pretty awesome.

Paedantic Basterd · 02-16-2011, 08:41 PM

Really? What do you do for carbs and starches, vitamins and nutrients? And fiber?

~~Dirty~~ · 02-16-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Really? What do you do for carbs and starches, vitamins and nutrients? And fiber?

I only ate 20-25 grams of carbs a day, and they came in the form of the small amount of carbs in protein foods like nuts and stuff. Every 2 weeks I carb-loaded for a 24ish hour period and ate my pizza and pasta and all that. But other than that 24 hour carb period, I cut my calories a few hundred below my maintenance calories to ensure I would lose weight. Then of that calorie number I ate like 65% protein, 30% fats, 5% proteins. The food wasn't too tough to adjust to. Just couldn't have the buns and breads which sucked. So I would usually make myself some cheesesteak and 4 fried eggs with melted cheese. Ate lots of beef burgers, usually topped everything with cheese and mustard. Worst part was the beverages. Basically all you can drink is water and water with Crystal Light which was hard to get used to, but I love water so I got used to it without a ton of trouble. Snacked on nuts mainly.

Burning Down · 02-16-2011, 08:54 PM

But what about vitamins? You must have either developed scurvy or taken a daily multivitamin. I'm just curious

Edit: I know that meat offers vitamin B12 and iron and what not, but it doesn't have vitamin A, C, D, etc, or calcium and most everything you find in milk.

Paedantic Basterd · 02-16-2011, 08:55 PM

And, while this is going to open a door I'd rather leave shut, I have to ask:

How hard were your poops without any fiber?

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-16-2011, 08:55 PM

A Ketosis Diet?

Do people know that's not a good idea to make yourself be in the state of ketosis?

Paedantic Basterd · 02-16-2011, 09:00 PM

Well, my understanding is that the Atkins diet is also unhealthy and imbalanced, but it doesn't stop anybody in the name of beauty, haha.

ElephantSack · 02-16-2011, 11:02 PM

One thing I've come to realize about the Atkins Diet is that it was developed for all those poor fuckers that have to work desk jobs. While an active human being's diet should consist of about 1/3 grain, if you're just sitting in a cubicle all day, all of those carbs are just going to sit there with you and turn to fat. That was something I didn't understand about Atkins when I first analyzed it.

The Batlord · 02-17-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

The idea of not wanting to kill animals for food is stupid in my opinion though, animals kill other animals for food constantly.

Because they're animals. They don't have a concept of cruelty. They don't care about other species. Not to mention that they don't have a choice.

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Some would say it doesn't mean we should, but like I've said before, we are on top of the food chain and I think it's best to use that to our advantage.

Dude, there's no nice way to say this, so I'll just say it. That is an intellectually lazy and stupid thing to believe. Because we can we should? Should white people have kept their black slaves because they were "on top of the food chain"?

KidCudi · 02-17-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Introvox

Hahaha....ya, maybe when I hit my 20's I'll stop...and eat more healthy.

(hahaha, oh man, that's funny)

you're 40.

02-16-2011, 11:02 PM	#898 (permalink)
ElephantSack Man vs. Wild Turkey Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 948	One thing I've come to realize about the Atkins Diet is that it was developed for all those poor fuckers that have to work desk jobs. While an active human being's diet should consist of about 1/3 grain, if you're just sitting in a cubicle all day, all of those carbs are just going to sit there with you and turn to fat. That was something I didn't understand about Atkins when I first analyzed it. __________________ OF THE SUN

02-16-2011, 08:38 PM	#891 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	After reading and participating in this thread, i've ended up not feeling bad for animals, meat eatesr, or veggieheads... just MuzicForums lol. If not eating meat works for some people, then great. The idea of not wanting to kill animals for food is stupid in my opinion though, animals kill other animals for food constantly. Some would say it doesn't mean we should, but like I've said before, we are on top of the food chain and I think it's best to use that to our advantage. Supplements and whatever are good but I think the best sources of proteins come in the form of lean meats. Hell, I went on a diet of all meat for awhile and my body looked and felt amazing and I'm gonna do it again this summer. It's called the Ketosis diet, and it's pretty awesome.

02-16-2011, 08:41 PM	#892 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Really? What do you do for carbs and starches, vitamins and nutrients? And fiber?

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Burning Down The Music Guru. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beyond the Wall Posts: 4,858	But what about vitamins? You must have either developed scurvy or taken a daily multivitamin. I'm just curious Edit: I know that meat offers vitamin B12 and iron and what not, but it doesn't have vitamin A, C, D, etc, or calcium and most everything you find in milk.

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	And, while this is going to open a door I'd rather leave shut, I have to ask: How hard were your poops without any fiber?

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~~Sansa Stark~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Eyrie, Vale of Arryn, Westeros Posts: 3,234	A Ketosis Diet? Do people know that's not a good idea to make yourself be in the state of ketosis?

02-16-2011, 09:00 PM	#897 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Well, my understanding is that the Atkins diet is also unhealthy and imbalanced, but it doesn't stop anybody in the name of beauty, haha.