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boo boo 07-11-2010 12:01 PM

Yes.

It's not like I pose any serious threat to the well being of the human male though.

Janszoon 07-11-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 898244)
Yes.

Ok then.

boo boo 07-11-2010 12:07 PM

I have a bias against my own sex due to personal experience I guess. Daddy issues. :laughing:

That and through methods of deductive reasoning I've concluded that men are stupid.

Janszoon 07-11-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 898246)
I have a bias against my own sex due to personal experience I guess. Daddy issues. :laughing:

That and through methods of deductive reasoning I've concluded that men are stupid.

I would say men and women are pretty evenly matched in terms of stupidity.

boo boo 07-11-2010 12:14 PM

Oh don't get me wrong, women can be VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY f*cking stupid, I just think stupidity is a lot more prevalent in males and in more distructive ways.

VEGANGELICA 07-11-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 898241)
People act like men NEVER nag. I can tell you that's a load of bullsh*t. But if women nag more than men it would be because they expect so many responsibilities from men which they are more reluctant to do than women are with their own responsibilities, generally women do seem to take the technical aspects of a relationship more seriously. It's stupid though to think that nagging is just something that's built right into the genome of every woman.

Also I was pretty appalled by the line "The problem is, women can't communicate, so they nag and whine about what they aren't getting rather than directly stating what they want, need or expect."

For one women are very good communicators, you just have to learn the language which too many men are too stupid to do, women are much more likely to talk about their feelings than men (as in less likely to call you a fag for wanting to discuss your problems) and they're better at it and wiser enough to try and find rational solutions to their problems, though I agree with the article that it only seems women demand more than men because men don't demand enough to create an equal diplomatic relationship. It's not as common for women to become alcoholics and knock around their partner because they know no other method of dealing with their personal problems.

Heh heh...I was going to joke that you sound like (gasp!) a non-shaving Feminist like me, boo-boo!

I agree with what you say in bold. Like Lateralus said earlier, sometime, men usually don't spend as much time as women caring for children and doing housework, though that is evening up. And the stereotype about men is that they want to play the field more than women do, though I actually don't think that is true (is it?). I think I read somewhere that men and women have about equal rates of having affairs, for example.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 898246)
I have a bias against my own sex due to personal experience I guess. Daddy issues. :laughing:

That and through methods of deductive reasoning I've concluded that men are stupid.

My mom is a great communicator. She doesn't hold back. If she's upset about something, you know. She is very open with her love, too. My dad is very quiet. It takes more time to realize that under his quiet surface he is filled with a very strong, concerned love for his children. When I was younger, I think I missed that. Only when I was older did I realize that under his quietness there was a lot going on. He's getting "better" at describing his feelings as he gets older. I find being with him very peaceful, partly because in some ways we are very similar.

I'm sorry about your dad, though I don't know the details, of course.

jibber 07-11-2010 03:14 PM

I agree that for the most part, women are better at communicating specific feelings. Women tend to analyze their feelings a lot more than men. When something is wrong, we focus on what we're feeling, why we're feeling that way, what caused us to feel the way we are etc etc. It's no wonder we can communicate our emotions because we pick every emotion apart in our minds. Men I think just feel bad about something and concentrate on how to make it go away, which is not necessarily a bad thing, it's just that solving the problem takes a higher priority than analyzing every minute detail, so putting names and labels to emotions isn't something men do.

These are huge generalizations though so of course there's probably people here who don't fit into those descriptions, but I'd say for the majority of people I've met, it's largely true.

NumberNineDream 07-11-2010 03:27 PM

^I don't fit at all with the "woman" description.

jibber 07-11-2010 03:31 PM

^like I said, it's a huge generalization. I guess I wouldn't even fit in there, as I avoid having big emotional talks like the plague. Just because I'm in touch with my emotions doesn't mean I want to talk about them.

midnight rain 07-11-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 898229)
I feel the article mixes some good advice, such as communicate about conflicts and your feelings directly, with outright sexism, such as when the article says, "The female brain is driven by hormones -- women think with their emotions. Maybe it all makes sense to them, but their irrational behavior just leaves men frustrated, bewildered and annoyed."

it's really no different from women saying men only think with their junk, is it?

CanwllCorfe 07-11-2010 03:54 PM

I think that's one thing that sets me far, far apart from the average male (at least stereotypically) is that I'm very in tune with my emotions. However

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These individuals are distracted by their own extraordinary sensitivity to subtleties of tone and feeling; they are hyper-alert to the meaning of emotive communication. Their thought processes are interfered with by flooding of irrelevant environmental details.
So it may just be my APD.. but I actually enjoy being so in tune with everything. It can just get kinda hectic sometimes.

midnight rain 07-11-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 898251)
Oh don't get me wrong, women can be VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY f*cking stupid, I just think stupidity is a lot more prevalent in males and in more distructive ways.

this is true, there are both less intelligent than average men and smarter than average men, while women tend to fall in the middle.

not sure what point you're trying to prove though. sounds like your attempting to sound open-minded and enlightened, like a male who claims to understand a female's point of view and issues.

jibber 07-11-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 898346)

not sure what point you're trying to prove though. sounds like your attempting to get laid.

fixed it for ya

(too easy, couldn't help myself :D )

thomasracer56 07-11-2010 07:30 PM

well said, as long as you know where you are setting your sights, then you can follow your instincts and they will take you to where you are as a person. it is the problem with advice, they dated you, so all the answers come from within. that is what matters. not someone else, or you are gonna find it hard to keep guard.

Farfisa 07-12-2010 07:39 AM

Sometimes I wish I had boobs ala Genesis P-Oridge. Well, I know some people wouldn't be surprised.

savannah 07-13-2010 11:01 PM

i think this is a GREAT question and have been thinking about that alot lately

for the past few months i've been basically living in a house with three guys two nights a week,.....and while i've lived with men before, it has never been in this type of setting where i was not in a relationship, nor did i want to pursue one, with any of them,....it has been quite different to have some much male energy around me that i've thought about what it would truly be like to be male

i think certian aspects of me would enjoy it.
boys are kinda gross, but in 'their' own element, like their home,....boys at peace are kinda cool

they are pretty even keel, there's no judgment, they are so open
i think i would enjoy that aspect of being a boy, the way they exchange socially with each other

i feel like women are so much more competitive, even when they share the same home, or comfortable space
its like no matter how close we become with each other, there will always be a twinge of competitiveness

as for physically,....yes, i love being a girl and experiencing as a girl

boo boo 07-13-2010 11:23 PM

It seems the great majority of females here give the "love physically being the girl but envy the social life of being a boy" answer.

I know there are guys who are pretty openminded but there are also a lot of girls who are very openminded (all the broads here for example) and vice versa there's a lot of dudes who are superficial judgemental f*ckwads and it's as common for men as it is with girls if not more so. Overall I'd say that personality flaw is a basic human nature thing and isn't exclusive to any one sex.

On the flip side from how some girls here feel, I've always been way more comfortable talking to girls (at least when it's girls Im not trying to persue and thus fear rejection from) because I don't feel that kind of pressure to not say anything that makes me sound like a "fag" like it is when I talk to members of my own gender. That's a huge reason I don't have any interest in being "one of the guys". If I do find me a guy I can communicate easily and comfortably with, the odds of him being queer are probably high.

I'm a girly man, and if you like being girly you'd find being a girly man would be hella difficult if you have any hopes for a social life with people of your gender. Thankfully I don't so I'm kewl with being a pussy who doesn't pee standing up.

adidasss 07-14-2010 12:26 AM

You go, girlfriend...;)

boo boo 07-14-2010 12:38 AM

I thought you were one of those types of homosexuals known as "bears". http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...irh-smiley.gif

jibber 07-14-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 899537)
On the flip side from how some girls here feel, I've always been way more comfortable talking to girls (at least when it's girls Im not trying to persue and thus fear rejection from) because I don't feel that kind of pressure to not say anything that makes me sound like a "fag" like it is when I talk to members of my own gender. That's a huge reason I don't have any interest in being "one of the guys". If I do find me a guy I can communicate easily and comfortably with, the odds of him being queer are probably high.

I'm a girly man, and if you like being girly you'd find being a girly man would be hella difficult if you have any hopes for a social life with people of your gender. Thankfully I don't so I'm kewl with being a pussy who doesn't pee standing up.

I'm not convinced that guys are as difficult to talk to as you say. I have a lot of guy friends, and I'm usually regarded as just "one of the guys." I agree with savanah that a lot of the time is DOES feel more comfortable and relaxed. Maybe your problem is the type of guys in your social circle at the moment. I have a lot of friends who I could describe as "girly men," and yes, they get made fun of by the other guys, but so does everyone in the group, it's how we all relate to each other. Our group dynamic is to joke around a lot, but there's no actual malice behind any of the comments, it's all just friendly banter. I'm assuming you're not the crazy over sensitive type who would be hurt by this kind of thing, so my guess is the guys in your social circle are mostly just assholes. It's a shame because I'm sure if you found a good group to hang out with you'd feel just as comfortable with guys as with girls.

boo boo 07-14-2010 08:06 AM

Well heres a new question I want to ask everyone, how many male friends do you have and how many female friends do you have? And how would you describe your relationships with them depending on how masculine/feminine they act or whatever. And what would you say are the pros and cons of dealing with each of the genders?

Even the girls who say they prefer the company of men still seem to have a lot of lady friends, and the girls here tend to be more tightly social with each other than anyone else.

Of course I can get along with some dudes, on this forum and irl but overall I find it rarer and more difficult and tend to be more easily put off by the behavior of males.

I think one thing we all (myself included) need to realise though is that personality types aren't gender exclusive and our opinions are almost always based on perceptions and our own experiences rather than any kind of fact. I know women who are relaxed and carefree because that's a personality type any person can have no matter what their genitalia is, any personality type from the myers briggs typology or whichever typology you prefer, it's not gender exclusive.

The problem is that it can be harder to find the individual behind the public persona and women do have a lot of pressure to act a certain way. Men do too though and overall any kind of social stigma makes it difficult for people who don't quite fit in with whatever their "gender role" is. Overall it's really all about finding friends with a compitable personality type, no matter what their gender is.

Janszoon 07-14-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 899618)
Well heres a new question I want to ask everyone, how many male friends do you have and how many female friends do you have? And how would you describe your relationships with them depending on how masculine/feminine they act or whatever. And what would you say are the pros and cons of dealing with each of the genders?

Even the girls who say they prefer the company of men still seem to have a lot of lady friends, and the girls here tend to be more tightly social with each other than anyone else.

Of course I can get along with some dudes, on this forum and irl but overall I find it rarer and more difficult and tend to be more easily put off by the behavior of males.

I would say I get along equally well with men and women. That said, most of my closest friends are male though I do have a few close female friends as well.

TheCunningStunt 07-14-2010 08:13 AM

I have more female friends than I have male.. I think that's due to me being a pervert.

I don't really like males. Being one of the lads, having banter, oioiiiiiii. I can't stand that manly bollocks where they insist on calling you 'mate'. Far too blokey, that's why I have more female friends. But the male friends I do have, I act the same way I do with them as the females. Just talk about shit and have a laugh.. I treat my friends the same regardless of gender, though I treat men and women differently if I don't know them.

boo boo 07-14-2010 08:20 AM

I hate bros, and I guess blokes are the UK version of that.

For those who don't know what a bro is.

http://x46.xanga.com/e87d12625433092.../z64061806.jpg

These are bros.

And bros definitely DON'T come before hos for me. If I had my way, I'd have all of them shot.

*David Gilmour riff*

jibber 07-14-2010 09:24 AM

I think I have more male friends than female friends, but it's still a pretty close split. I'd say the relationship is about the same between all of them, we're all very open with each other, we all joke around a lot (often at each other's expense) and I'm comfortable haing serious conversations with both male and female friends. I'd say boo boo hit the nail on the head when he said that who you're drawn to as a friend has much less to do with gender than it does with personality types. I can't stand "bros" or "blokes" any more than you guys can. Only I'd call them "tools" or "douches".

Having said that, when I'm first introduced to a group of people that I don't know, I often feel more at ease walking into a group of guys rather than a group of girls. Could be what Savanah said about girls being more competitive and always sizing each other up.

TheCunningStunt 07-14-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 899623)
I hate bros, and I guess blokes are the UK version of that.

For those who don't know what a bro is.

http://x46.xanga.com/e87d12625433092.../z64061806.jpg

These are bros.

And bros definitely DON'T come before hos for me. If I had my way, I'd have all of them shot.

*David Gilmour riff*

Yeah, they look like the US version of blokes. Blokes are just full on LADS. None of this sitting down to wee business, they will piss up a wall because of how manly they are. Basically macho men that are probably really insecure about their manhood, so they have to really display how manly they are.

jibber 07-14-2010 09:42 AM

^all those guys look about 12 in that photo. Those guys displaying their "manliness" by pissing against a wall is like a 2 year old saying he's a big kid because he went poo poo in the big potty. Like I said, douches.

mr dave 07-14-2010 09:43 AM

^that, or your average college student who actually touched a boob before finishing high school. (except that guy in the red on the right).

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-14-2010 09:44 AM

People usually piss against walls because the toilets are either full or covered in puke.
Not because it's manly.

boo boo 07-14-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber (Post 899655)
I think I have more male friends than female friends, but it's still a pretty close split. I'd say the relationship is about the same between all of them, we're all very open with each other, we all joke around a lot (often at each other's expense) and I'm comfortable haing serious conversations with both male and female friends. I'd say boo boo hit the nail on the head when he said that who you're drawn to as a friend has much less to do with gender than it does with personality types. I can't stand "bros" or "blokes" any more than you guys can. Only I'd call them "tools" or "douches".

Having said that, when I'm first introduced to a group of people that I don't know, I often feel more at ease walking into a group of guys rather than a group of girls. Could be what Savanah said about girls being more competitive and always sizing each other up.

Well I agree that women can be harder to read but I think I know the language and when you know the language a lot of them are easy to communicate with.

Janszoon 07-14-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 899671)
People usually piss against walls because the toilets are either full or covered in puke.
Not because it's manly.

Or because it's a long walk between bars. Not that I'd know from experience or anything. ;)

boo boo 07-14-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 899671)
People usually piss against walls because the toilets are either full or covered in puke.
Not because it's manly.

Yeah those Trainspotting toilets are the worst, when I come across one of those I'll man up and use the urinal, but I won't like it. :(

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-14-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 899678)
Or because it's a long walk between bars. Not that I'd know from experience or anything. ;)

Guernsey has more bars per square mile than any other place in the world.
So I wouldn't know about that :)

TheCunningStunt 07-14-2010 09:51 AM

I've pissed up a wall, but still. Just an example of really blokey behaviour. Stating that they're going for a massive shit whilst putting a paper under their arm is another LAD thing to do.

Janszoon 07-14-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 899681)
Guernsey has more bars per square mile than any other place in the world.
So I wouldn't know about that :)

That's it, I'm coming to visit.

jibber 07-14-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 899682)
I've pissed up a wall, but still. Just an example of really blokey behaviour. Stating that they're going for a massive shit whilst putting a paper under their arm is another LAD thing to do.

I've got a friend who does that just because he thinks it's funny. He also enjoys sitting down on my lap and farting. But he's the furthest from a "lad" you could get. Extremely smart, really caring and compassionate, more well-traveled than I am, and he's a total computer geek who runs his own internet marketing company.

TheCunningStunt 07-14-2010 10:01 AM

He partakes in LAD behaviour.

http://www.musicbanter.com/lounge/48679-lad.html

I made a thread on it, there's a site that makes light of LAD behaviour. A bit like FML, but instead it's LAD. I love and hate 'lads' at the same time, they're amusing with their c*nty antics, but I also hate talking to them and being around them.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-14-2010 10:02 AM

Lads tend to be more tolerable when you've had a skinful yourself.

TheCunningStunt 07-14-2010 10:04 AM

Lads justify completely inappropriate behaviour as 'banter'.

Usually it's followed by an 'oioi'.

Banter oioiiiiiiiiii

adidasss 07-14-2010 10:16 AM

Almost all of my friends are girls, although lately I've been bonding with some gay men. I don't have a single heterosexual male friend (in real life yeah, I've talked to plenty of great hetero dudes online). I guess it's mostly because all of the straight men that have surrounded me throughout my life have been retarded and homophobic so I just stayed clear of them. And the chances of finding a normal, open minded and intelligent straight dude in Croatia is kinda like winning the lottery. I think women on average are just much more open minded...


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