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View Poll Results: Are you satisfied with your gender?
Yes 84 69.42%
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Obviously not so trivial. And I don't know why you put having in quotations, it's obviously a social imperative, regardless whether most women unthinkingly conform to it, and as such very much deserves to be questioned.
I put 'having' in quotation marks because the last time I mentioned about having to shave my legs (right at the beginning of this topic) I sparked a debate with Vegan on why I felt I had to shave my legs, thus spurring on the great Do women HAVE to shave their legs discussion (which then led to page upon page of leg shaving based debate). Women do not have to shave their legs, but do so because it is a social norm, hence why I use the words 'having to' quite loosely.

Obviously what is a trivial matter regarding gender to me isn't so trivial to others, it would seem. I just thought it somewhat amusing that, in the context of discussions on gender, shaving legs has proved to be the most provoking subject.

EDIT: Also, in some agreement with Cunning Stunt here... This has been a rather exhausting feminist debate... Even I'm starting to wish I was a bloke so I didn't have to defend my right to smooth legs...!
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I put 'having' in quotation marks because the last time I mentioned about having to shave my legs (right at the beginning of this topic) I sparked a debate with Vegan on why I felt I had to shave my legs, thus spurring on the great Do women HAVE to shave their legs discussion (which then led to page upon page of leg shaving based debate). Women do not have to shave their legs, but do so because it is a social norm, hence why I use the words 'having to' quite loosely.

Obviously what is a trivial matter regarding gender to me isn't so trivial to others, it would seem. I just thought it somewhat amusing that, in the context of discussions on gender, shaving legs has proved to be the most provoking subject.

EDIT: Also, in some agreement with Cunning Stunt here... This has been a rather exhausting feminist debate... Even I'm starting to wish I was a bloke so I didn't have to defend my right to smooth legs...!
Actually if you were a bloke you'd still have to defend that choice, more so actually.

You shouldn't care what anyone says if it makes you feel better about yourself, it's only Vegan who is making an issue out of this though I admit I keep it going by constantly arguing with her about it.

Nobody can oppress you for having smooth legs, you have short pink hair and tatts I don't think anyone is gonna call you a product of chauvinistic idealism because you shave your legs. No matter what you do Tea someone is always gonna disaprove of how you live your life that's just the way of human existence.

I think I've made my points on the legshaving issue clear enough for everybody to understand and if Vegan still doesn't get it then oh well I tried.

So that being said lets try and find something else to talk about, surely there are OTHER significant issues about gender relations that we can discuss other than f*cking legshaving, right?
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Actually if you were a bloke you'd still have to defend that choice, more so actually.

You shouldn't care what anyone says if it makes you feel better about yourself, it's only Vegan who is making an issue out of this though I admit I keep it going by constantly arguing with her about it.

Nobody can oppress you for having smooth legs, you have short pink hair and tatts I don't think anyone is gonna call you a product of chauvinistic idealism because you shave your legs. No matter what you do Tea someone is always gonna disaprove of how you live your life that's just the way of human existence.

I think I've made my points on the legshaving issue clear enough for everybody to understand and if Vegan still doesn't get it then oh well I tried.

So that being said lets try and find something else to talk about, surely there are OTHER significant issues about gender relations that we can discuss other than f*cking legshaving, right?
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Actually, when I sat and thought about it, the more pressing issues for me, with the gender arguement is more about families, childbirth, women + careers, etc... Which are serious topics, but I'm too drunk to go into (it was a special occassion, detox totally failed tonight!). BUT yeah, this was my main point. How the f*ck has shaving legs become the most prominent issue on a discussion between genders?????
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