Sweet Jane

The newspapers over here had a front page that said the Pope was dead before he even passed away, which is quite sickening really. RIP John Paul.

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covle

i guess the world will now be awaiting a puff of smoke in the vatican.
he wasnt the biggest fan of women, and the whole "year of the three popes" things are a bit shady, but i still have a tremendous amount of respect for him. he was a good man. anybody think he will be remembered as john paul the great? as many people are calling for over the world

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blackTshirt

well may he rest in peace that's all i got to say

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Ma Cherie

That picture is just wrong you know he was one of the greatst men alive and your trying to diss him in that way you aught to be ashamed of your acttions because he was and exelent leader and probably the greatest pope moder pope ever

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Fenixpunk

The pope who was anti abortion, anti womens' rights, homophobic, and anti contraception amongst other things.. an excellent leader? Im not ashamed, you should be for condoning such "leadership" in the year 2005.

1. the pope was polish so Rome could keep power over Poland when it became communist..

2. the pope didnt even admit to the holocaust until 6 years ago!!!

True, he may have had certain "liberal" views--opposing the imperialist war/occupation in Iraq, speaking in support of the Palestinians, etc., but he constantly contradicted himself (i.e. saying the Israel is superior to the Palestinians, as well as not disputing the Israeli apartheid government's legitimacy). It is also worth mentioning that, while he opposed the war in Iraq, he supported the overtly reactionary ideals of the politicians who initiated it.
He also opposed "liberation theology" (or ideology?)--the idea that religion could be taught/practiced from an anti-authoritarian perspective. For this reason, he was opposed to the Quakers. The pope and the whole catholic religion for that matter, has some issues. No grief from me on his death.

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covle

i want to see a black pope. that would be a bold statement. 60% of catholics arent white, american or european. of the three, well favourites i guess you could call them, one of them is black. were he to be elected, i believe that could be one step closer to aiding the african community and finally erasing the blacks/whites debacle. it wont solve it, that may never happen, but it would be a huge progress. screw traditionalism. the modern world is continually changing. john paul saw that, the vatican must now see it also.

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Sweet Jane

Screw that, who cares what colour they are, a more liberal pope is all I wanna see, I'll even keep my trap shut about how sexist the whole thing is. There's been at least three black Pope's already in the Church's first 500 years. The main coloured candidate is Nigerian, Cardinal Francis Arinze, who also holds conservative views on contraception and family issues. I want to see Cardinal Godfried Danneels of Brussels, the most liberal of serious contenders who hasd already urged the Vatican to allow women to hold posts normally taken by cardinals and said that condoms can be used in the fight against Aids. Seeing as there are currently 39.4 million people living with HIV globally and every day as many as 1,300 children die from HIV and Aids-related illnesses across the world I think thats gonna be a step in the right direction.

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once i see this as a fact with hardcore evidence, then i'll believe it.

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Sneer

it makes sense because of the vastness of africa and asia- which both have big cathoilic numbers. plus you've got south america (presume thats not included).

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