I got a 1. Or a 0. Or whatever the **** is pure hetero. White, male, and straight. Now if only I was Protestant I could be President. A high school diploma would probably also help.

I know she's super hot. I kind of have a crush on her.

That's really cool. I'm all for love but at the same time I love sex so don't always have to have love involved. Especially because I've only genuinely loved two guys. I get bored of men very easily.

This. Which is why I find 95% of men boring. Women are far more interesting.

I've found the exact opposite to be true. The less attractive chicks I know have almost always been more fun to joke around or have an intelligent conversation with than the "hot" ones.

I hear it's different in other states and outside the US, but in NJ it's pretty ****ing miserable. TBQH, the Jersey Shore isn't that far from reality of the bar/club scene around here, and the reason I would never go to one to try and find a girl or new friends.

Bis just don't know what they want OMGAH PICK ONE ALREADY!

:laughing:

Ikr!

soooo

I've decided that before October ends I need to tell my family about the fact that I'm struggling with gender dysphoria. I can't deal anymore. I want to wear bright red lipstick. I want to wear mascara. I want to cross my legs and hold my chin on my fist femininely while I enjoy my favorite cup of coffee at my favorite cafe.

I went to the beach today in makeup, shortshorts, and my favorite bright pink button up shirt. I didn't shave my legs or anythng because fvckyou, women have body hair it's not that big of a deal so get over it you chauvanistic fvcks. For a while I felt good. Really good. But, about halfway up the beach I started getting stalked by these disgusting motherfvcking brodude transplants that had that "we're gonna jump and rob you, you fvcking faggot" look in their eyes and I was fvcking terrified. I don't understand what's happening to my city. This is supposed to be a safe place for people like me. Why are these ugly, repulsive, subhuman "lifeforms" even alive? Let alone living in SF? Go back to whereever the fvck it is you're from, take your brodude buds with you and have your fvcking brewskies and casual sex with predominantly ignorant and self-loathing women somewhere else. I had my knife on me, I never leave as Kelly without it. And frankly I don't know what I would've done if they attacked me.

I am really scared. I don't know how my folks are going to react. They've said things that are transphobic before and it really concerns me. I remember my mom's girlfriend saying something about me to the extent of "so what, you can't handle the fact that you're a faggot so you have to dress up in drag and fvck lesbians instead???" She was wasted at the time but still. I'm really worried. My family and the short list of friends I have here are literally all I have and it would emotionally bankrupt me if my fam bailed on me. I'm in a really uncomfortable way right now and I really need any and all advice anyone here can spare because I can't fvcking deal right now. I can't.

First of all, body hair is pretty gross on guys too. Body hair is just very iffy in general. I don't always mind it on a girl, but there are certainly caveats. If you're an Irish girl, and you have Irish girl hair, shave. Irish body hair is not attractive on anyone. Just because it's something that's stressed more for women doesn't mean that it's chauvinistic to not like hair on a woman's legs.

Maybe I'm being prejudiced, but the fact that your moms are gay has got to count for something. Even if they're not particularly supportive, I doubt they're going to be THAT hypocritical to not be at least vaguely accepting of alternate lifestyles. They might act like pricks, but I highly doubt they'd "bail" on you. I imagine they'd come around eventually.

And besides, you drink far too much for it to just be social. I always kind of assumed you had something weighing on your soul for you to be as tanked as you are all the time. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if stressing over this whole cross-dressing thing was part of the reason for your drinking. If so, then keeping it inside is the last thing you should do. Just for your liver if nothing else.

^Agreed. I don't know your family but hopefully they aren't hypocritical considering the stigma attached to homosexuality in the past 20+ years.

Hope everything goes well with your family, WD. Coming out can be really scary.

I'm pulling for your family and friends to support you and all that. That **** is important. However, THIS is such a fantastic reason to come out dude. You drink WAY too much and it's going to kill you one day if you keep going like this. The longer you wait the more stressed out you will get. Your gender dysphoria isn't going to get better it's most likely going to get more progressive and you're going to drink a sh*t ton if you don't feel comfortable with it.

Save your life dude. Change your life for the good of your life. Excellent point Batlord.

I took the Kinsey scale test last year and got a 5. I took it again today and got a 6. I've somehow outgayed myself.

I've never come out as such, I personally think it's completely redundant and unnecessary. You don't go to your parents/friends and announce that you're straight, so why should gay/bi people have to make an exception?

A few of my friends know, but it's just because it's been relevant at a particular time for me to mention it in a conversation.

I've always considered myself asexual because I just have never been interested in a relationship like that with anyone. But I've recently developed strong feelings towards another guy, and it's really the first time I've felt like that about anyone. Probably wasn't asexual after all, just never ever had any romantic feelings toward anyone, but the right person could bring them out I guess.

Took the test and scored a zero.

My mother, born in 1930, was gay her entire life. From as early as she can remember she was attracted to women. After graduating nursing school in the late 50s she succumbed to family and social pressures and tried the whole hook up with a guy, buy a house with a white picket fence, and squeeze out a few kids thing (boy, am I glad for that!). It didn't last. My folks got divorced when I was two and I grew up in a home with my mom, her partner, my two sisters and her partners daughter.

Straight, gay, bi? Who gives a crap. The fact that homophobia still exists in this day and age is one of the most depressing things about the human race.

You can view things that way if you want to, but the way I see things the progress made in this area is simply astonishing. I'm not claiming that the world is perfect but remembered the world in the 1960's compared to the world of today, where same-sex marriage is legal and increasingly common in just astounding and wonderful.

At least here in Washington state

100% agreed.

whoopwhoop
gay parents club!

So flash forward 7 years and now I can say that I am fully out to my family, hurray!

I sort of made a deal with myself that I would come out if and when I meet that special someone and that happened some 5 years ago so after I was dating my partner for a few months I took the plunge and told my mother. Slightly less dramatic than telling my sister but probably even harder to do emotionally. My sister I told via text message, my mother I told face to face. And boy was it hard to get the words out.

She said she knew...she also said she would have preferred it if I hadn't told her. But almost immediately, like my sister, she went into the whole "I'm worried what will happen to you", not just about the prejudice but also HIV etc. So I assured her I'm very safe etc.

That was about 5 years ago. about a year later, my father found out, through my mother, because my boyfriend was coming to visit my home town and was staying at my house! I thought it was going to be quite dramatic but in the end they shook hands, my father spent the rest of the holiday hiding somewhere and then we proceeded not to speak to each other for about a year.

My mother is now quite fond of my boyfriend I think, although unfortunately, he is spanish and so they can't really communicate since my parents don't speak English. She makes food for him when we come home, asks me about him over the phone. We've come a long way.

My father this summer made also a big step forward and didn't hide away this time, but greeted my boyfriend and said goodbye and even "see you" to him in English when we were leaving! That was really heartwarming. There is still much progress to be made and I doubt they will ever really have a close relationship with my boyfriend but I'm ok with that.

So, the moral of the story is that, a lot of gay people are really terrified of telling their family and think the worst will happen, and unfortunately, sometimes it does. But most of the time, once the initial shock is over, things settle down and then there is a great sense of relief and liberation, and your relationship is allowed to grow since now you don't have to hide this very important part of you. So it is very much worth the effort. :)

P.s. My eldest sister has gradually warmed up to my boyfriend also, mostly because, unlike me, he has an amazing taste in everything so he buys her affection with presents. My brother on the other hand, I thought was ok with the whole story, turns out still can't really get over it so he mostly avoids us when we come home. But the best twist in this story is that, a few months ago, his only daughter, my niece, came out to me and my sister as a lesbian!! My mind was fucking blown away, I had NO idea!!

So, now it's her turn to come out to the rest of the family, including her homophobic parents. It will be interesting, she is my parents' only granddaughter (my brother has a son also)...:)

So cool to hear good news on a Monday. Glad things worked out for you addidass. You know, your name has always been part of MB history for me, as you were here long before me so I never knew you then, but always noted you as the originator of the "Your Day" thread. Congrats anyway and I hope you're very much in love (and that your parents eventually learn enough Spanish or English to be able to communicate with your guy). :thumb:

Edit: Oh, and The Bitch Box too! :thumb: :thumb:

Even if there's still a ways to go, it's great that it worked out.

Can't imagine how it must be having to bet everything on coming out.

That's the kind of pressure many of us will never know, and be glad not to know. Could so easily have gone terribly badly. Respect.

Thanks you guys...:)

@Micshazam, it was a bet I was willing to make only when I knew that I would be ok even if they didn't react well. It turned out well, but I was sort of adamant, to the rest of my family, that I was not going to live a lie for the rest of my life, I had too much pride for that and they needed to understand and accept my decision (they were initially VERY much against telling our parents).

Anyways, I'm glad it all turned out ok, it's just a great burned off my shoulders and one less thing to stress about. It's a little weird I guess that something like that could cause so much stress, but we are where we are...:/

Really happy for you, adi.
Eastern-europeans are indeed often ridiculous about homosexuality and it's good to hear that things went relatively well for you. Can't even imagine how my dad would react if I were gay. He's totally brainwashed by this whole conservative putin-loving orthodox **** that's currently so popular in the former USSR.

Yeah I heard that Russia is pretty crazy about homophobia right now.

Not to mention that whole tragic mess in Chechnya.
Still crazy to think that this really happened so recently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-g...es_in_Chechnya

Personally I would have gone with, "Hey, dad! Who's got two thumbs and takes it up the butt?"

A positive story is not something you always see in these situations. Awesome news. It's certainly a road block that weighs you down quite a bit. I remember when my dad was witnessing my experimental phase and I could just see the somewhat disappointment. My mom did meet one of my exs tho even though it only lasted like..2 weeks. But at the same time, my parents are always supportive.

Oh man! I read that quickly and thought you said "My mom did one of my exes!"
:yikes:

I'm glad that you found some happiness adidasss!

Sidenote: Is Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic still the most famous person to come out of Croatia? LOL

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...etty1jul18.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Modri%C4%87

The plot thickens.

One man can kick a soccer ball. The other can kick your head off your body. I go with CroCop.

https://media.giphy.com/media/mRX3DanN64Pq8/giphy.gif

Depends what you're into, if you're into MMA and are from the US or Japan, then Mirko probably. If you're in the rest of the world, then Luka. ;)
Whereabouts are you/your dad from?

I was quite worried also about my dad's reaction as he exhibited nothing be extreme homophobia until he found out about me. Things tend to change once you realize your prejudice applies to your own flesh and blood. It's a lot harder to suddenly hate someone you've known and loved (I guess) your whole life.

We're from the Ukraine but have been living in Germany for many years now.

So a small update re: the situation with my brother. My niece later revealed to me that her father (my brother) at some point, while drunk (he's an alcoholic), told her to just please not be like me. So that's gonna be a lot of fun when they find out...

At some point, my niece had some problems with her psycho parents and she ran away from her house (not permanently, just to escape the argument) to ours. Later on, my brother's wife scolded her for this, because, among other things, that's where that "***got" lives.

So, our relationship is souring more and more, but we were still officially pretending that everything was fine. Since I'm the only one of my family not living in my home town, we have connected via whatsup, there was a group where all of us brothers and my niece and nephew were in. And that lasted for some months before all of a sudden, I guess in some drunken stupor, my brother decided to send a video in this group that someone made to make fun of a couple of (left wing, he is obviously right wing) Croatian politicians who came out in the newspapers for domestic abuse (they weren't out until then). There was a lot of "***got" thrown around in the video.

I was quite shocked, so was my youngest sister (who is my biggest ally). I didn't see the video until the next day because of the time difference and she was the only one who said anything about it which also speaks volumes about the level of true acceptance and care the the rest of my siblings have towards me and my sexuality (which is basically it's fine as long as there's no issues, then you're on your own).

Of course when I saw it, I calmly let him know that I too was a "***got" in case he had forgotten and didn't find anything amusing about the video. And then left the group. And unfriended him on facebook.

Now his hypocrite of a wife is trying to reestablish contact over facebook.

I never had a very close relationship with him, primarily because he's 10 years older and moved out and started a family while I was still a kid. But also because he's a typical hetero macho dude, and we have nothing in common (especially since he's turned into an alcoholic).

I don't need to have a relationship with either one of them except for my niece and nephew whom I like (and who are severely traumatized by living with their crazy dysfunctional parents).

I'm going home in a few weeks, the first time after a year, and after this happened (which was some months ago now). It will be curious to see how this will all develop and what his attitude will be if we see each other in person. :/

How old is your niece?

24 but still in college, studying to be a dentist, hence still living at home. :/

Tight situation but I’m glad she’s not like 13 or some ****.

My nephew is exactly 13 so he still has a lot to go in enduring the home situation. Niece is going to therapy to deal with that shit so I imagine that's where he's headed. So it goes...:/

Damn adi your family sounds so problematic, it must have been horrible growing up in that environment. Luckily you created a new family for yourself by finding love, I guess

That's a rather charitable view of MB but whatever.