Paedantic Basterd

Let me put it this way. Does looking at pornography satisfy you completely, or make you want to have sex? It's probably the same deal. They probably try to avoid arousal wherever possible.

As for child porn, supply and demand. I really didn't want to compare pedophiles to vegetarians, but I feel now I need to give you a better analogy than I have. Vegetarians often don't support the meat industry (abuse), and do so by eliminating their consumption of meat products. It may seem like a drop in the ocean, but when enough people take this attitude, it reduces the overall demand for meat, and thus the number of animals being harmed.

Sorry to all vegetarians on MB for using you in a crude analogy. You're not pedophiles.

lucifer_sam

This might be a little off-topic and maybe slightly TMI, but oh well.

In the last few months or so I've lost almost any urge to look at pornography. It happened as I was watching one (as men are wont to do at times) and I saw a penetrative act that didn't even look remotely pleasing for the girl...and well, it was completely deflating.

It actually forced me to realize that sex should be more about love between two people than gratification of individual sexual urges.

So no, pornography doesn't even begin to satisfy me anymore...and I can imagine other men have had similar experiences.

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Farfisa

Yeah man, I know what you mean. I used to hear these conversations my "friends" were having about taking the brown express, and the guys calling it the best thing ever disgusted me. The majority of chicks I've talked to that have had it in the rear didn't like it at all. I just don't get the appeal behind it (oh wow, that is not meant to be a pun).

s_k

Hahaha, love that last sentence. The serious tone in it makes me laugh out loud.

You know, I can understand guys who see a 16 or 17 year old and think 'looks nice...'. This probably has happened to me before and wel yeah, who gives a ****. But apart from thinking so, I never tried anything. But actual kids? Even if you do have these desires... Why destroy someone's life? It seems so egoistic.

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lucifer_sam

16 or 17 is a different story entirely...it might be "wrong" in the lawful sense but it doesn't represent anywhere near the same magnitude of sexual corruption as being attracted to children who haven't achieved puberty yet.

I think for some men, there might even be a certain mysticism about the pubescent female -- look no further than Nabokov's Lolita for evidence of that.

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Thom Yorke

16 or 17 is a completely different story, yeah. If they have the qualities of an older woman that you find attractive, then you're attracted to them, which is fine if you don't act on it. this isn't usually an issue, because most just opt to go for older women as it's socially acceptable.

There is of course being attracted to the idea of someone being underage though. I know there's a paraphilia where people are attracted specifically to people that are right around the age of consent, can't remember the name though.

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Mykonos

I think I can agree the most with the udea of making them repress their sexual urges. Something like a sexual preference is ridiculously difficult (arguably impossible) to rewrite, but in the big indoctrination we call life, sex drives don't quite share the same untouchable status. You could probably convince a paedophile that his rape fantasies should never become reality with far greater ease than you could convice him that children aren't attractive.

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s_k

But where do you draw the line?
At people who actually raped a kid? At people who watch that sort of porn? At people who have at some point in their live admitted they are interested in kids in that way?

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Thom Yorke

The issue with child porn isn't so much with the people that watch it but rather how it got out there, at least in my opinion. In a perfect world there would be no child porn out there, so people wouldn't be allowed to watch it, but at least watching it is better than actually physically acting upon their urges. To have those thoughts in your head is abnormal but I don't see any issue in them having those thoughts. They can't help it. They should be helped though. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, drugs to decrease sex drive, etc.