This guy is my cousin.
 

I have a cousin out in Vancouver who has been in and out of rehab and jail on various drug charges and other crimes since he was a teenager. I may have even mentioned him on here before. He's embarrassed our family way too many times. Here is his latest escapade, which really shows how much of a dipshit he really is.

Vancouver police defend canine takedown - British Columbia - CBC News

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At least he admits that he did the wrong thing by smashing the bus windows, but he definitely deserved to be mauled by the police dog for all the shit he's done wrong. He's almost 34 years old, and he has yet to grow the fuck up.

**** that's bad, I usually always make excuses for people but as you say he's 34yrs old. Think its time he grew up a bit. Its a shame really.

34.

Skateboard.

Public transport.

I rest my case.

Exactly. He can't even keep a job, and barely anybody will even hire him because of his criminal record and chronic drug use. He's using the police dog issue to get back at the cops.

It's the dog I feel sorry for. Who knows what he could have caught biting that guy.

:laughing: My dad said the exact same thing.

I just don't know why Chris couldn't wait for the next ****ing bus, like any normal person would.

Using dogs to apprehend people fleeing is pretty awful. This is definitely police brutality. You might as well shoot someone in the foot to arrest them.

I think he deserves to be arrested or whatever happened, but if that pic is the wound on his leg then I do need to agree with swim that it's pretty brutal.

That link... night court!

What drugs does he use out of sheer curiosity? I'm under the impression the guys a smack head which I sorta doubt.

Yeah, that's his leg, and I definitely agree with you guys there. The cops were using the dog as a weapon, which is not what police dogs are for (or should be for). However, Chris is still a ****ing moron. If he had just stopped in his tracks like the cops told him to, they wouldn't have released the dog on him.

I believe he was arrested for vandalism anyways.

What does that mean? The link works for me...

Sorry BD, I was just making a stupid reference to an old TV show called Night Court. The main picture/vid in your link reminded me of guess who, in this picture:

http://timstvshowcase.com/nightc2.jpg

:laughing: Yeah, I got it after I looked up Night Court.

I'm sorry, but if you attack a bus with a skateboard and then don't stop when the police tell you to stop, I think it's fair to assume that you might be dangerous (and on drugs). In that case, I'd rather they sick a dog on you than endanger the police officer.

Out of curiosity, how would you people who think that this is police brutality have handled the situation?

Bull yeah, now you mention it. I thought the Chief of Police looked like he's a little clam baked for sure. What do they do with all that confiscated marijuana, in Canada? How do they get rid of it? The Chief of Police.

Don't be sorry. I have absolutely no sympathy for Chris whatsoever. He certainly also has an anger problem and, at nearly 34 years old, he still thinks he can act like a spoiled brat. He wasn't raised that way though. His siblings turned out just fine. I can't believe that I come from the same strain of DNA as him.

He's still lucky I heard of a few cases where police respond to a domestic argument or public nuisance call and the person involved ended up getting shot dead. Maybe Steve (knowing that he survived the incident) should use this as a wake up call to straighten himself out and address some of the problems he has. I don't think the police could foresee the damage the dogs done when they deployed them. So I'm not faulting the police.

So you think that the massive wound on his leg is justifiable for hitting a bus with a skateboard? I've done worse.

I'm not a police officer so I'd have probably used my bataring. :crazy:

Two things make your situation different.

1 - Is that you're female, and gorgeously slim at that. No police officer is going to sketch out at the idea you might be stronger than they are. They're going to be more worried about weapons.

2 - You probably wouldn't have carried on struggling long enough for a dog to bite you four seperate times. Or resisted arrest.

Unless you would have resisted arrest, in which case I'd say that like this guy, every bite was justified because you would have been RESISTING ARREST.

I'm not sure how things work over there but if I avoid the police at all costs, in every aspect. I lie to them to stop myself getting in bother, I've ran away from them whilst underage drinking. I'm not debating the fact that this Christopher guy may be a scumbag, but the police aren't all that you know. I know a small handful of police officers or children of police officers. I've seen police officers taking class A drugs. My ex-boyfriends dad was a police officer and her got caught doing 100mph on the motorway which should be an automatic 2year driving ban but because his fathers a policeman he got points. There's so many stories like this I know. Police officers pretend to be law abiding citizens when infact they're just as scummy as the rest of us.

For one, I'm british, love.

For two, you've only given examples of when the police have been lenient there. I don't see how any of them change the morality of how the police dog handler responded to the situation. He warned, he let the dog loose, and after he was brought down the guy carried on trying to get away, so the dog continued in the effort to bring him down.

I've no real reason to believe it wasn't exactly as clear cut as that, just as surely as you have no reason to believe it was. At the end of the day though, to speak about the guy involved, a family member outing you as a scumbag doesn't really lead me to believe you're the side of the story I should be listening to. Especially when your lawyer is already quoting facts to the press about injuries caused by police, omitting information like "this data is only applicable to 65 arrests out of 11000"

For one, don't patronise me, love.

For two, what part of I've seen a police officer taking class A drugs isn't comprehending? Taking class A drugs is seen by the 'police' as an unforgivable offence basically. So an officer doing something that they could potentially go to jail for isn't very responsible is it? Why should they be let away with an offence like that and this guy gets mauled for flinging a skateboard about. I just gave an examples of times where the police are hypocritical, but it's blasphemy if it's not them is all I'm saying.

And what I'm saying is you're comparing two completely unrelated problems - Police Corruption, and Police Brutality.

Apples and Oranges. The two things don't have any bearing on each other. A corrupt police officer can be brutal, or they can be super lenient. A straight police officer can also be brutal or lenient.

I also think you're pushing a view on me that you've had borne out by your own experience with the police. I've friends in the police force too, and I live round the corner from our local station as part of greater manchester. Its not like I'm some rube who's only contact with the police is CSI dramas and I don't know how things are in a city or with real policepeople.

Yes, the police are human beings and are fallible, but they also have a job to do and they work in an environment and within a system that does its best to stamp out the kind of behaviours that you're implying are endemic (And without any but anecdotal evidence, no less)

If I was trying to force my opinion on you I'd probably give a fuck about the whole ordeal.

I get the whole corruption/brutality not being the same thing side too, I just don't see why you're shooting down what I'm saying as if it's got no relevance to the police being fine with doing something like this to a guy but find it completely acceptable to commit crimes themselfs?

Because thats not the discussion? The discussion is "Is this police brutality". I don't believe it is, on the strength of the statement released by the police, and the fact that the contrary statement has had its credibility significantly weakened by the fact this thread even exists.

The discussion is not "Are the police hypocrites". I have real trouble seeing how you can possibly believe it is.

I KNOW ITS NOT THE FUCKING DISCUSSION I WAS MEERLY MAKING A POINT. Fucksake.

They are the same here. They power trip, use prostitutes in uniform, beat people unnecessarily, give out tickets for the sake of getting their quota for the month and let the US government tell them what to do.

It is absolutely down to who you are, how your dressed, if your female and your skin colour for the treatment you receive from them. I was at a festival not too long ago and I caught a police man perving at all the skimpily dresses women around. I mean I know he's a man but have some bloody restraint and do your job.

But there are exceptions. There are some brilliant police officers out there just as there are good people in life. Unfortunately they are not necessarily going to be the ones who you end up with.

Don't they have tazers in Canada?

On the real though, cops are pussies these days. Fat ****ers too mostly. Coming from an exmilitary perspective, a cop should be able to run a mother****er down and whoop his ass. I dunno how they are in Canada but here where I'm at they're all lazy, out of shape, pompous bastards and I've never seen a one of 'em that could catch me.

If a dog was latching into your leg, wouldn't you try to get away from it? Just saying, self preservation and all that.

My issue with it isn't that the guy was obviously a burntout dumbass, I think the problom was that the dog wasn't the right choice here. Run him down, taze him, call for backup, **** do like Aurora said and batarang his ass! The guy didn't hurt anyone so really ain't right to **** him all up.

this, exactly this. When I got caught smoking weed the two police officers that handled us couldn't have been more sound. They were making jokes with us as we handed the weed over and they explained that no court would be needed and it wouldn't stay on records and stuff. They were just really cool about the whole situation as if it was no big deal, which it isn't. Let us keep our grinders and various other related objects, we even still had green in the grinder, no joke. Guy was a champion.

The police here are the exact same mate. It's a fitness test and drug test to get in (among others) and then after that nothing.

I don't understand why the dogs were there in the first place, dogs are only usually used for raids here really. I can't think of any other situation where they're needed except for drug searches.

It says in the article that a dog team responded to the call. I'm guessing they were just the nearest officers.

fuck tha police!

911 is a joke!

Whether the wound is "justifiable punishment" or not is not the point. Chasing down a suspect that has shown himself to be irrationally violent (whether because of drugs or mental issues) is potentially dangerous. He may be armed. He may be jacked up on PCP. He may think he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. I would rather a suspect get a leg wound than possibly have an officer get shot or stabbed (and who knows what happens to the suspect after that).

That has nothing to do with this case.

He may not have been in range. I've never try tazing a sprinting person, so I have no idea how difficult it might be, and I suspect that you don't either.

So he should put himself in danger to catch some random jackass who may or may not have a weapon? **** that. If it were a choice between that or letting him go, I'd just let him go.

No**** asked you. ;)

You're right, he said that entirely of his own volition. So what are you going to do about it?

I don't know what that means. :confused:

I was having a joke, you can climb off your high horse now.

never bother I was just being cheeky :o:

I'm too comfortable up here.

Looks like it.

That's unfortunate but you can't live his life for him nor force him to change. All you can do is let him know you might still be around to give him a hand if and when he decides to start helping himself first. Though from the sound of things he's not quite ready to start accepting personal responsibility for his continued existence.

Yeah, but there's a bit of a history with them in the province. RCMP wrong to use Taser on Dziekanski: report - British Columbia - CBC News

I've been tazed on the run, didn't seem like it was that hard for 'em to me.

Letting him go makes more sense than sicking a damn dog on him over a broken window. Not like the stupid bastard ain't gona turn up doing some dumb**** later.