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Old 11-30-2013, 12:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think maybe your hung up on easy. Easy doesn't necessarily equal better.

Many people having experinced both struggle and plenty, believe life lived near the bone is sweetest.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think maybe your hung up on easy. Easy doesn't necessarily equal better.

Many people having experinced both struggle and plenty, believe life lived near the bone is sweetest.
Being that I've experienced being dirt ass grown on food stamps poor and comfortable I'm pretty sure I know which one is preferable.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm not saying income, security, healthcare etc. don't improve life, nor am I saying poverty is a prime requisite for happiness, only that it is propogated and nourished from within.
This is a utopian concept of perpetual bliss. The simple fact of the matter is that human beings are influenced by their immediate environment and those that they interact with. If that environment and interaction are positive then the likelihood of their happiness is going to be greater than if it was negative.

As I said before, somebody from a poor third world country and in a rural setting may well be innocent of first world issues, but those in urban areas more than likely won't be and would gratefully swap their lot for a life in a first world environment (which is why people emigrate anyway) and is more likely to grant them the happiness that they want.

I would go on about the gene factor here as well to counter some of the above, but as science is not one of my stronger points I won't.

As for the topic at hand, those pictures of American cities look a damn site more appealing than the pictures they use for the worst cities/towns in the UK.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Being that I've experienced being dirt ass grown on food stamps poor and comfortable I'm pretty sure I know which one is preferable.
You know which is preferable for you. Not for others. Some people actively choose poverty, give up their wealth and their comfortable lives, and live a life of cheerful hardship, toil and struggle. Some even went on to write down some of the most noble thoughts ever written and are considered the very wisest of men.

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Old 11-30-2013, 12:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This is a utopian concept of perpetual bliss. The simple fact of the matter is that human beings are influenced by their immediate environment and those that they interact with. If that environment and interaction are positive then the likelihood of their happiness is going to be greater than if it was negative.

As I said before, somebody from a poor third world country and in a rural setting may well be innocent of first world issues, but those in urban areas more than likely won't be and would gratefully swap their lot for a life in a first world environment (which is why people emigrate anyway) and is more likely to grant them the happiness that they want.

I would go on about the gene factor here as well to counter some of the above, but as science is not one of my stronger points I won't.

As for the topic at hand, those pictures of American cities look a damn site more appealing than the pictures they use for the worst cities/towns in the UK.
Environment plays a part, I agree. I don't think anyone, even the most mentally disciplined, could find happiness spread out on a torture rack and injured daily in terrible ways. But if one has food and shelter then, providing they have a functioning central nervous system, they are equipped to experience the bliss in existence.
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Environment plays a part, I agree. I don't think anyone, even the most mentally disciplined, could find happiness spread out on a torture rack and injured daily in terrible ways. But if one has food and shelter then, providing they have a functioning central nervous system, they are equipped to experience the bliss in existence.
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