Innovative art forms

[midnight rain]

Wanted to get your opinions on this one. I was thinking the other day while I was playing a video game (Red Dead: Redemption) on how video games actually seem to be getting better and better as time goes on, for me at least. I think the increasingly large worlds and improved graphics are making for some of the best games to ever have come out and it's a far cry from the days of Nintendo. I, for one, consider it an improvement (although I know some people who beg to differ )

As for music, I think that for reasons I'm not quite sure of, has reached sort of a lapse in creativeness. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some guy born 20 years after the Beatles broke up who clings to his copy of Sgt. Pepper, I do love tons of current music. However, I don't think many people will dispute me when I say the innovation in music has slowed down as of late.

So I just came up with this random question: currently, what form of art do you think is currently seeing the largest boom in creativity?

I say video games since they're still relatively new compared to the other options and they have a lot more to expand.

[TheCunningStunt]

Great thread, though I don't think Video Games are an artform at all. For me there's nothing really arty about them, not very thought provoking, just damn entertaining. There's nothing better than running over a hoe on GTA.

Though, I thought music. But then the question was: what what form of art do you think is currently seeing the largest boom in creativity?

I'd have to say movies, I think movies have always been a brilliant art form and there are still visionary directors trying to do some good stuff today. Though some could argue the most creative days of film are over, it's just recycled ideas. But I think there's still a lot to come from film.

[Dr.Seussicide]

Video games are very innovative though if you look past games like GTA and sporting games and look more into maybe RPG's, MMO Strategy games and FPS.

[Antonio]

even though i hate to say it, i do agree, Tuna, that creativity in music has slowed down a bit as of late. i'm sure in the near future things'll pick up, but right now it's a bit of a slump to me.

but yeah, i will say video games. i can understand if someone doesn't see it as an artform, but alot of the time people don't see past what was put into the game and how it came to be. really, there was a creative process behind every game, even if very small, and the creators had a certain vision that they wanted to achieve. whether it's through the story, the controls, or just the whole overall idea, there is creativity put into a game.

as for movies and books, movies come at a close 2nd for me. there's usually a film or two out there every once in a while that will make you go WOW and really take notice. and while i'm not very savvy with current literature, books don't seem to me as going very strong in the creative department.

[TheCunningStunt]

For me art has to effect your mind and emotions, video games are mindless entertainment and in the case of GTA, they give me teh lulz.

[Stone Birds]

music, because its the easiest thin to make, almost anyone can make a song for almost nothing out of the pocket. and people can do whatever they want with music.

i wouldn't consider books to be because they have strcit unofficial rules about grammer vocabulary and language musical lyrics don't have to make a lick of sense, and they don't need to follow any grammatical rules

not Movies, i would say is second to music, you can be very creative but the problems are that making a movie is harder there's limitations on what poeple are able to do

not video games they have to make enough sense that someone can understand the game, and plus video games are extremely hard to make only someone with absolutely no life could even make a cheap knock-off of pong

GO MUSIC!!!

[midnight rain]

Originally Posted by Stone Birds

i wouldn't consider books to be because they have strcit unofficial rules about grammer vocabulary and language musical lyrics don't have to make a lick of sense, and they don't need to follow any grammatical rules

You should try reading Cormac McCarthy. Not only is he a brilliant author, but he also does away with lots of the "unofficial grammar rules"

[boo boo]

Video games have the potential to be an artform and to think otherwise would be foolish.

Should it become an art form? Well if gamers become art snobs and start writing off the previous generations of games as useless kitsch then no. It's best that it remains a part of "low" culture.

[TheCunningStunt]

Video games are NOT an art form, nor should they be.

[boo boo]

I didn't say they were but they have the potential to be. I'm talking about the games as a whole and just their components like the graphics and music, of course THESE things can be art.

There is such a term as interactive art. Games have the potential to essentially be interactive movies and if movies can be art so can video games, if anything video games could have even more potential because there's a special relatiobship between the designer of the game and the person playing it.

How many people have seen a great painting or watched a great movie and wished they could be totally immersed into that world? Video games have the potential to be a form of art that immerses you and interacts with you in a way nothing else can. They can explore the same things and raise the same questions any piece of art can.

If more people started making artistic games I think that would be great, but I fear what would happen if the game community started being taken over by pretentious f*ckwads who forget that video games are first and foremost supposed to be fun and enjoyable. There's already this pretentious f*ckwad from IGN (Michael Thompson) who is trying to review video games in the same way you review works of art and it's just a stupid, obnoxious gimmick that I hope never becomes a new fad in video game journalism.