Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1597680)

maybe like the hunger games, viewers could send characters a package at their own expense. so while they might not have any drugs on the island initially.. maybe once they get a relatively functional agrarian/hunting society going, someone can send them a package with marijuana seeds, or coca plant seeds, and watch the impact on said society. or conversely... send them the building blocks of some basic technology, like maybe some rudimentary tools to start harvesting and smelting metal. or maybe even some solar panels or something like that. the possibilities are vast.

Originally Posted by Hans Zimmerman (Post 1597953)

Solution for homeless? Employ them to clean the streets, construction, guard a property

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1597879)

my previous comment still applies... in fact, nothing has changed

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1598183)

@ overcast


i was being a dick here

nothing wrong with survivalism... i think the image hippies have of it is a bit sugar coated... they tend to abhor the idea of inflicting pain on other creatures, reinforcing the very idea of humanity as something above and beyond the rest of the animal kingdom.

cause no other creature is vegetarian out of empathy for the feelings of others... they're driven to a vegetarian diet out of strategy because in their case and their ecological niche, it happens to be the most effective way of obtaining nutrients. semi off topic rant approaching
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but the more i think about it the less vegetarianism/veganism makes sense to me. because really we were born out of a system that necessitates that life feeds on life. vegetarians draw an arbitrary line as to which kind of life is ok to eat and which kind isn't. cause they're concerned about pain. but predation is built into the ecosystem we live in. so really they are just rejecting nature. or trying to separate humans from nature. and yet they tend to be the self proclaimed advocates of nature.

where as the hunter looks at the rest of the animal kingdom the same way any other predator does. so that's just humans engaging in the natural world.

so that's what i find interesting about survivalism... the idea of being able to hunt and grow **** and do whatever it takes to survive. but it doesn't look very easy or pleasant, tbh. so i'd probably prefer to stay in a high tech society.

but i do find tribes that still exist this way interesting. this is a pretty good documentary about such a tribe.

Watch Pure Nature Features: The Great Dance: a Hunter's Story Online | Hulu

they still exist. so maybe if you are really serious about wanting to disconnect from civilization and go primal, think about going to africa and trying to join in with these people.

Originally Posted by Overcast (Post 1598203)

I'm not personally a vegetarian. I'm real interested in farming/foraging though, not so much hunting and killing animals. I'd probably fish at the most. I love animals. I'm less interested in the barer bones of hardcore survivalism and more interested in the beauty of certain parts of nature. In my experience I'm only truly happy when I'm in the middle of that beauty. Campfires, rainstorms, isolation... I have a nihilistic viewpoint on life so being able to ditch my identity and become an observer living out my days in nature sounds like the best plan for me. I don't really fit into society since nothing that's important to most people means anything to me. I'm willing to ditch a lifetime of shelter, food and safety even if I just lasted a week tbh.

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1598207)

Could we stop referring to "the Homeless" as if they're a separate species please? They;re just the same as you and me, just we happen to be lucky enough to have a roof over our heads. A tiny change in circumstances and we could be on the street with them, yeah? Bit of compassion?