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Old 06-21-2015, 04:57 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, someone had told me that, and as I watched the movie shortly afterwards, I can confirm that it's true - though he does say, "Play it again", while talking to Sam; so close, but no cigar!
He actually says (it's a long time since I saw it but I'm pretty sure he says this) "You played it for her, you can play it for me! Play it!"
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I wonder what sad person did the hours of research necessary just to put that one word, "never" into their conclusion.
Research is unnecessary when you have been brought up on original ST and seen every episode at least ten times. I can confidently bet all three of my cats' lives on this never having been uttered by Captain Kirk. Usually he just said "One to beam up", "Energise" or "Beam up the landing party".
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Strictly speaking this is probably true, but it's a very misleading statement. George Orwell invented the phrase "Big Brother is watching you" as a slogan for a propaganda poster, not as a line of dialogue. In my edition of the book, the slogan, "BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" appears, in caps, on the first page of the first chapter, paragraph two and, over the page, again in paragraph four. Let's not diminish the credit that George Orwell deserves; it would be ironic if we allowed spin-off movies and reality shows to rewrite the history of the novel's creation, given that rewriting history is a key element of Orwell's inspired book.

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Yeah but people think it was said in the movie. Never was.
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Advancing the thread with a common misconception about the Bible: the Bible doesn't say, "Money is the root of all evil." it says, "The love of money is the root of all evil," which is subtly different and makes more sense - not that the Vatican ever paid it much attention either way.
Also, Jesus wept? Jesus was hard: he obviously just had something in his eye...
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Old 06-21-2015, 05:34 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Also, Jesus wept? Jesus was hard: he obviously just had something in his eye...
Maybe not in canon, but...

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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 06-21-2015, 05:49 PM   #53 (permalink)
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He actually says (it's a long time since I saw it but I'm pretty sure he says this) "You played it for her, you can play it for me! Play it!"
^ Happy to conceed that your failing memory is better than my failing memory.

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Research is unnecessary when you have been brought up on original ST and seen every episode at least ten times. I can confidently bet all three of my cats' lives on this never having been uttered by Captain Kirk. Usually he just said "One to beam up", "Energise" or "Beam up the landing party".
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^ Wow! All I've done is watch them on tv - though I did also see their movie about going back to "present day" San Diego(?) to find a whale or something. It has some great scenes of dry comedy.
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Old 06-21-2015, 05:56 PM   #54 (permalink)
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^ Happy to conceed that your failing memory is better than my failing memory.
Thanks. Um, who are you again...
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^ Wow! All I've done is watch them on tv - though I did also see their movie about going back to "present day" San Diego(?) to find a whale or something. It has some great scenes of dry comedy.
Yeah, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home also known as "Kirk and Spock save the whales. Oh, and Scotty helps too!" I featured it as the last of four ST movies during "Star Trek Month" in The Couch Potato in March I think it was.
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I've never not thought trekkies are uber cool.

i know im the minority on this one but i don't see what's so cool about Star Trek or Star wars for that matter.
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Ok, thanks for the info.
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Strictly speaking, David Livingstone didn't discover the Victoria Falls. The local Africans had known it was there all the time. When they took him to see Mosi-oa-Tunya ("the smoke that thunders"), he just renamed it and spread its fame elsewhere. To my mind, that's not discovering in the true sense, the way Madam Curie discovered radium.
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Columbus didn't discover America
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He also didn't discover Puerto Rico.

He is also not in the lyrics to our anthem..
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He also didn't discover Puerto Rico.

He is also not in the lyrics to our anthem..
But he did introduce slavery. Surely that's a deed worthy of song.
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But he did introduce slavery. Surely that's a deed worthy of song.
Actually that part is not in the song.

He does get a verse where he says Borinquen (Puerto Rico) is the daughter of the Sun and the sea.

Sh*t is sung from his perspective too, we know he said that for real.
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