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Lucem Ferre 11-06-2016 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1765764)
(is it really ad hominem to call someone an idiot if they are?)

I think if you can explain why they are an idiot as well as tie it into why it pertains to the argument at hand then it isn't an ad hominem.

Frownland 11-06-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1765749)
Where do you live that it's such a serious issue?

Most American rural areas are seeing a rise in heroin/opiate use.

The Batlord 11-06-2016 04:55 PM

I guess it's too late for Trump to run on a platform of a dopeman on every corner.

Tristan_Geoff 11-06-2016 05:05 PM

Welp, I spent all day reading the annotated lyrics for To Pimp a Butterfly on Rap Genius. I feel like a new person, really.

The Batlord 11-06-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766046)
Welp, I spent all day reading the annotated lyrics for To Pimp a Butterfly on Rap Genius. I feel like a new person, really.

I spent all day reading 4Chan posts. I feel subhuman.

Lucem Ferre 11-06-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766046)
Welp, I spent all day reading the annotated lyrics for To Pimp a Butterfly on Rap Genius. I feel like a new person, really.

From Rap Genius? I have to do that with a lot of Lupe Fiasco songs.

Tristan_Geoff 11-06-2016 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1766050)
From Rap Genius? I have to do that with a lot of Lupe Fiasco songs.

Yeah I listened to the album and cross referenced all the different opinions on the lyrics. I loved the album before, but damn I have a new appreciation for it now that I understand the underlying story. Makes you wonder why goddamn prog musicians never explain the lyrics that they so meticulously crafted.

Lucem Ferre 11-06-2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766054)
Yeah I listened to the album and cross referenced all the different opinions on the lyrics. I loved the album before, but damn I have a new appreciation for it now that I understand the underlying story. Makes you wonder why goddamn prog musicians never explain the lyrics that they so meticulously crafted.

I know a lot of artists that won't explain them like to keep them vague so people can pull their own meanings from them despite the initial meaning.

Blank. 11-06-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1766059)
I know a lot of artists that won't explain them like to keep them vague so people can pull their own meanings from them despite the initial meaning.

I prefer this. It's why I like Tool's, Slipknot's, and Nirvana's lyrics. I prefer something that's beautifully worded and leaves ambiguity to find your own meaning. I try to do the same with my lyrics.

Tristan_Geoff 11-06-2016 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1766059)
I know a lot of artists that won't explain them like to keep them vague so people can pull their own meanings from them despite the initial meaning.

Yeah, I definitely understand and agree with that, but with like, concept albums, if they don't tell you what the concept is and how it develops, it's entire meaning is lost among the cryptic lyrics that prog groups make.

Blank. 11-06-2016 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766081)
Yeah, I definitely understand and agree with that, but with like, concept albums, if they don't tell you what the concept is and how it develops, it's entire meaning is lost among the cryptic lyrics that prog groups make.

House Of Gold & Bones

Tristan_Geoff 11-06-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1766082)
House Of Gold & Bones

I'm aware this is a Stone Sour record but beyond that you've lost me.

Blank. 11-06-2016 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766087)
I'm aware this is a Stone Sour record but beyond that you've lost me.

It tells a story. But if you don't have the inner booklet you would never know that there is a story being told do to the ambiguity of the lyrics.

The Batlord 11-06-2016 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1766081)
Yeah, I definitely understand and agree with that, but with like, concept albums, if they don't tell you what the concept is and how it develops, it's entire meaning is lost among the cryptic lyrics that prog groups make.

I was under the impression that a lot of prog lyrics were just hey-nonny-nonsense strung together for the sake of having weird lyrics.

Frownland 11-06-2016 05:38 PM

Slipknot and those ultra deep lyrics that need explaining. Crazy bastards.

Key 11-06-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1766090)
I was under the impression that a lot of prog lyrics were just hey-nonny-nonsense strung together for the sake of having weird lyrics.

That's part of what I like about prog is the sheer nonsensical lyrics. I mean, just look at Yes:



And don't even get me started on Jon Anderson.


Frownland 11-06-2016 05:43 PM

You...you know he's in Yes, right?

Tristan_Geoff 11-06-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1766090)
I was under the impression that a lot of prog lyrics were just hey-nonny-nonsense strung together for the sake of having weird lyrics.

That's what they want you to think I guess. But looking at the lyrics for something like De-Loused in the Comatorium just confuse you more, despite them trying to actually convey some sort of message through the album you ain't gonna get it unless you read the short story he wrote, and good luck with that.

The Batlord 11-06-2016 05:48 PM

Meh. I probably don't care that much about what a musician has to say anyway. They aren't required to have the same skillset as an author or poet so they probably aren't as skilled in general.

Key 11-06-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766101)
You...you know he's in Yes, right?

That was the point, dummy. I was expanding my point.

Frownland 11-06-2016 05:49 PM

Oh ok. The don't get me started part was confusing because you started on him before even saying that.

Key 11-06-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766108)
Oh ok. The don't get me started part was confusing because you started on him before even saying that.

Nah, I was just implying that his solo work is just as cheesy as the Yes work.

Frownland 11-07-2016 02:46 PM

Yay got an interview for a cashier position at a electronics store tomorrow. That college degree is paying off.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766612)
Yay got an interview for a cashier position at a electronics store tomorrow. That college degree is paying off.

Wow, fan-ceeey.

Janszoon 11-07-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766612)
a electronics

Well, at least you didn't waste your time majoring in English.

Frownland 11-07-2016 02:54 PM

Whoops, meant to say A's Electronics.

Seriously though, I hate people so much already, I wonder what retail at Christmastime is going to do to me.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1766619)
Well, at least you didn't waste your time majoring in English.

Ladies and gentlemen, Janszoon. He'll be here all night.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766623)
Seriously though, I hate people so much already, I wonder what retail at Christmastime is going to do to me.

From my experience working in Wal-Mart's electronic department, you'll end up hating people even more. There is nothing quite like dealing with a cranky old white bitch while Michael Buble's Christmas album plays over the speakers.

The Batlord 11-07-2016 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766612)
Yay got an interview for a cashier position at a electronics store tomorrow. That college degree is paying off.

As in Best Buy or Radioshack kinda electronics store?

Frownland 11-07-2016 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1766625)
From my experience working in Wal-Mart's electronic department, you'll end up hating people even more. There is nothing quite like dealing with a cranky old white bitch while Michael Buble's Christmas album plays over the speakers.

Those speakers are bumping John Zorn's Christmas album at least once (it's actually quite nice).

Key 11-07-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766612)
Yay got an interview for a cashier position at a electronics store tomorrow. That college degree is paying off.

I guess TheRichest never got back to you.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 03:28 PM

Or me :(

Frownland 11-07-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1766660)
I guess TheRichest never got back to you.

They did. I need to sign the agreement then I'll be in touch with whatever editor they assign me.

On another note, I just got a free bean burrito by getting a quarter on he prize thing at Taco Bell.

The Batlord 11-07-2016 03:46 PM

I'm still considering whether the effort required to fill out the application is worth it.

Frownland 11-07-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1766678)
I'm still considering whether the effort required to fill out the application is worth it.

I wrote one about danger music, one about live broadcasted deaths, and one about conspiracy theories that are true. That part kinda writes itself.

The Batlord 11-07-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766682)
I wrote one about danger music, one about live broadcasted deaths, and one about conspiracy theories that are true.

All my examples would be from this site. Maybe they'd be interested in my reviews of Britney Spears' entire discography. :laughing:

Frownland 11-07-2016 03:52 PM

15 times people repeated themselves repeated themselves 15 times

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-07-2016 03:56 PM

15 Times Frownland Proved You Shouldn't Hire Him

Frownland 11-07-2016 03:57 PM

15 times frownland proved he should own your company

I'll start it off
15: you want your company to fail

Frownland 11-07-2016 03:59 PM

Also

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1766667)

On another note, I just got a free bean burrito by getting a quarter on he prize thing at Taco Bell.

God among men, right?


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