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WWWP 11-16-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2090976)
Without getting into how you're misinterpreting (or watering down) that concept, it's not even meant to address that idea you dolt.

lmao i know right this is the best part of Elph Discovering Philosophy

Marie Monday 11-16-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2090971)
Oh how you should have!

The guy turned out to be super aggressive (he once attacked a friend of mine for no reason) so it's probably better that I didn't :laughing:
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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2090975)
Omg, I would have felt the same. Reminds me of a guy who tried hitting on me by reciting Shakespeare so I accepted the free drink before I called him out for misquoting.

That's a first class power move

Frownland 11-16-2019 04:07 PM

Nah, you're wholly misinterpreting it as a counterpoint to whatever philosophical concept has captured your interest in the past week.

Stay in your lane and talk about how rad books are.
"Hey bitch, you’re never too old to rock and roll."

Frownland 11-16-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2090983)
I just hate that particular quote because it doesn't provoke anymore thought...it gives you nothing it's a non-starter

It doesn't "provoke anymore thought" because it's not trying to answer your question you dolt.

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*Shrugs* Feelin' almost nothing but misery for 3 months has made me very interested in the "why"
Misery has just as little meaning as life.

The Batlord 11-16-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2090975)
And yeah Bat what do you know of literature.

Do you call Harry Potter books literature or just the books you feel smug about reading?

Frownland 11-16-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2090995)
Again

Q: What's the meaning of life?

A: There isn't any, just do the **** you enjoy to make the most of the time you have

Ftfy. Seems very definitive to me.

WWWP 11-16-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2090992)
Do you call Harry Potter books literature or just the books you feel smug about reading?

I'm smug about HP too

WWWP 11-16-2019 06:18 PM

Dude you gotta get past the whole "I am the only one to ever experience these feelings" thing and get yourself some help

The Batlord 11-16-2019 06:40 PM

There are plenty of losers, bro.

Black Francis 11-16-2019 06:47 PM

Yea but some are posers just pretending.. like beck.

The Batlord 11-16-2019 07:53 PM

Bro, you're definitely a loser. What you call having a life is just desperate self-destruction. Maybe if you actually saw that you wouldn't smirk at drunk driving like it's just you being a young bohemian. And you ****ing work at Dollar General ffs.

Chula Vista 11-16-2019 08:30 PM

Big difference between a loser and Elph. Big difference.

You wanna know what it is?

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Now scroll back to the top.......

The Batlord 11-16-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2091062)
I don't do that anymore, I quit drinking

I could get a better job but then I'd have to cut back on classes...being a student almost requires being impoverished

You always have some meaningless deflection to preserve your delusions.

The Batlord 11-16-2019 09:04 PM

That you're some kind of punk and not just a dork who can't handle being not that interesting. That you're living a life and not avoiding reality through self-destruction. That you had a girlfriend and not just some chick who didn't even like you. That you read to expand your mind and not just cause you have nothing to do and need to romanticize that. I'm sure I could go on.

Dude111 11-16-2019 09:58 PM

I just got up a little bit ago..... Listening to a record,drinking some chocolate milk and browsing the bases here :)

Might watch a movie after and then go back to bed........

WWWP 11-17-2019 12:42 AM

Or they go to therapy and accept treatment

WWWP 11-17-2019 02:53 AM

bruuuuuuuh

The Batlord 11-17-2019 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2091093)
anyway I'd like to add that if you had a moment in life of bliss well beyond normal exp

something you couldn't hold onto...but made you feel truly alive rather than a vessel that's wasting time on commercial entertainment

you might understand how difficult it is to return to "reality", that is, an existence that has no vibrancy in comparison

people normally can't go back, they have to aspire forward in some way

So your newest delusion is that your relationship delusion has elevated you over the common rabble, got it. Jesus Christ I waste my life reading comic books but you waste your consciousness on lies. It makes me feel claustrophobic tbh.

WWWP 11-17-2019 04:38 AM

Bruh

Trollheart 11-17-2019 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2091078)
That you're some kind of punk and not just a dork who can't handle being not that interesting. That you're living a life and not avoiding reality through self-destruction. That you had a girlfriend and not just some chick who didn't even like you. That you read to expand your mind and not just cause you have nothing to do and need to romanticize that. I'm sure I could go on.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2091080)
I read just cuz I likes to read some of us are born with intellectual curiosity

I always say I'm not a punk, so much as a superfan, I'm beginning to think that's the crux of my unhappiness

If you're going to read, but find nothing to cheer you up or stimulate you, why bother? If all you're doing by reading is reinforcing your stereotypical teen(ish) belief that "world iz agin me dude" then you're just wasting your time. Imo. I read to improve my knowledge, increase my appreciation of various subjects. And for fun. Christ man, you're only young. Cheer up ffs. Can't be that bad can it? And if you believe it is, as WWWP says, get some help.
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 2091081)
I just got up a little bit ago..... Listening to a record,drinking some chocolate milk and browsing the bases here :)

Might watch a movie after and then go back to bed........

Would she not let you get up any further? ;)
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2091093)
anyway I'd like to add that if you had a moment in life of bliss well beyond normal exp

something you couldn't hold onto...but made you feel truly alive rather than a vessel that's wasting time on commercial entertainment

you might understand how difficult it is to return to "reality", that is, an existence that has no vibrancy in comparison

people normally can't go back, they have to aspire forward in some way

You sound like Buffy after they dragged her back from Heaven. :rolleyes:

Marie Monday 11-17-2019 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2091115)
You sound like Buffy after they dragged her back from Heaven. :rolleyes:

LMAO perfect

I agree that getting help is the best option, Elph. If you can't get joy out of things you like then I think the problem is not a lack of meaning, but depression. I mean that I think you're looking at your problem from the wrong angle.

Lisnaholic 11-17-2019 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2091093)
people normally can't go back, they have to aspire forward in some way

^ I'm quoting this because I occasionally wonder about time. Anyone have any clever ideas about what it is? Sometimes it's labelled "a fourth dimension" and it's clearly important because nothing exists without it, but does anyone really know how or why one second ticks over into the next ? :confused:

I know elphenor was talking about different stuff like aspirations and memories, but his statement could also be rephrased like this:-

People can never go back because time never goes backwards - and theoretically people don't have to do anything except sit and wait because the future is gonna come to them anyway, regardless.
(That last part is an empirical result that you can confirm for yourself. To conduct the experiment at home you will need: one watch, one armchair.)

Psy-Fi 11-17-2019 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2091068)
Big difference between a loser and Elph. Big difference.

You wanna know what it is?

Scroll down.......

































































Now scroll back to the top.......

:laughing:

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 2091081)
I just got up a little bit ago..... Listening to a record,drinking some chocolate milk and browsing the bases here :)

Might watch a movie after and then go back to bed........

https://i.ibb.co/3dF59Yf/The-Dude.jpg
"Ah, that must be exhausting!"

Marie Monday 11-17-2019 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2091118)
^ I'm quoting this because I occasionally wonder about time. Anyone have any clever ideas about what it is? Sometimes it's labelled "a fourth dimension" and it's clearly important because nothing exists without it, but does anyone really know how or why one second ticks over into the next ? :confused:

I know elphenor was talking about different stuff like aspirations and memories, but his statement could also be rephrased like this:-

People can never go back because time never goes backwards - and theoretically people don't have to do anything except sit and wait because the future is gonna come to them anyway, regardless.
(That last part is an empirical result that you can confirm for yourself. To conduct the experiment at home you will need: one watch, one armchair.)

Time is fascinating. As you said, it differs from spatial dimensions in that it only can go in one direction, and that is linked to causality, but is causality an effect of the one direction of time, or does causality have a deeper cause and is the way time behaves an effect of it in order to comply? Why do we have one dimension doing this weird stuff?

Chula Vista 11-17-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2091100)
bruuuuuuuh

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2091110)
Bruh

He's a glutten for the drama at this point.
Music Banter has become his crying towel.
I speak from experience.

Elph, if you have issues and want them fixed, and can't do it yourself, get help.
If you have issues and don't want them fixed, carry on.
If you don't have issues and just enjoy the drama-bait, get a life.

Chula Vista 11-17-2019 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2091122)
Time is fascinating.

Since getting sober 11 months ago after a 30 year binge, time is most blowing my mind having a newfound clarity.
First off I was averaging about a 3 hour re-charge nap every day. EVERY day.
At 8 months sober I realized I'd gained an additional month of awake time.
I keep getting hit with things and not being able to fully grasp how long it's been.
My wife mentioned Kelly Clarkson the other day and I had to check and still can't grock that the first season of American Idol was 17 freaking years ago. Seems like 8-9 inside my memory. So strange and it happens every stinking day with some random thing.

Marie Monday 11-17-2019 07:56 AM

^I never thought about that, it must feel so strange. A bit like suddenly getting a sharp clear consciousness after a very long haze? Quitting after 30 ****ing years must have been tough, that's a amazing

Psy-Fi 11-17-2019 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2091126)
Since getting sober 11 months ago after a 30 year binge, time is most blowing my mind having a newfound clarity.
First off I was averaging about a 3 hour re-charge nap every day. EVERY day.
At 8 months sober I realized I'd gained an additional month of awake time.
I keep getting hit with things and not being able to fully grasp how long it's been.
My wife mentioned Kelly Clarkson the other day and I had to check and still can't grock that the first season of American Idol was 17 freaking years ago. Seems like 8-9 inside my memory. So strange and it happens every stinking day with some random thing.

It's pretty much the same with me.
Anything that's happened since (roughly) my mid to late twenties, when I think back on it, seems like it happened 1/2 to 1/3 as long ago as it actually did.

Chula Vista 11-17-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2091131)
Anything that's happened since (roughly) my mid to late twenties, when I think back on it, seems like it happened 1/2 to 1/3 as long ago as it actually did.

Is it like a weird reverse deja vu kinda feeling for you?

It mostly makes me sad that I have missed or glossed over so damn much.

grindy 11-17-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2091125)
He's a glutten for the drama at this point.
Music Banter has become his crying towel.
I speak from experience.

Elph, if you have issues and want them fixed, and can't do it yourself, get help.
If you have issues and don't want them fixed, carry on.
If you don't have issues and just enjoy the drama-bait, get a life.

Glutten?

Chula Vista 11-17-2019 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2091137)
Glutten?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Dictionary.jpg

grindy 11-17-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2091138)

My dictionary is glutten-free.

Frownland 11-17-2019 10:23 AM

Really? Mine's got a ton.

Trollheart 11-17-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2091137)
Glutten?

Nah he's surely glutten-intolerant. Has to eat glutten-free food.

Edit: Damn you guys and your fingers which are quicker than mine! :mad:

Black Francis 11-17-2019 11:28 AM

That time convo was pretty interesting. It got me thinking that the best way to appreciate time is to wear a big clock around your neck like flavor flave while watching a pot boil in a dentist office

The Batlord 11-17-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2091145)
My dictionary is glutten-free.

lol

Anteater 11-17-2019 12:56 PM

Who needs gluten free when there's donuts out there just begging to be eaten!

Lisnaholic 11-17-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2091122)
Time is fascinating. As you said, it differs from spatial dimensions in that it only can go in one direction, and that is linked to causality, but is causality an effect of the one direction of time, or does causality have a deeper cause and is the way time behaves an effect of it in order to comply? Why do we have one dimension doing this weird stuff?

^ Thanks for the reply, Marie. I wanted to answer your question, but found my head spinning round in circles instead. You now have me worrying about time even more, so for the moment I think I'm going to follow the advice of Black Francis until I've done more research:-

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Originally Posted by Black Francis (Post 2091155)
That time convo was pretty interesting. It got me thinking that the best way to appreciate time is to wear a big clock around your neck like flavor flave while watching a pot boil in a dentist office

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Congrats on your sobriety, Chula. I hope you stick with it - and learn to enjoy it too.

@ Chula and Psy-Fi: Don't rule out your advancing years as a factor in that subjective view of the past, ole timers. Yep, the recent years whizz by and I have to consciously resist starting every sentence with, "It seems like only yesterday that...."

Psy-Fi 11-18-2019 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2091133)
Is it like a weird reverse deja vu kinda feeling for you?

It mostly makes me sad that I have missed or glossed over so damn much.

Not exactly sure what you mean with "reverse" deja vu, but, for some reason, the past 10 years in particular have seemed to come and go so quickly that it almost seems like I dreamed them and 10 years haven't actually passed.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2091197)
@ Chula and Psy-Fi: Don't rule out your advancing years as a factor in that subjective view of the past, ole timers. Yep, the recent years whizz by and I have to consciously resist starting every sentence with, "It seems like only yesterday that...."

^ :laughing: Once you reach a certain age, the years really do seem to pass by quicker the older you get.

As a friends father (R.I.P.) once said, "Live it up while you can boys, because it all goes by too damn fast."

Lucem Ferre 11-18-2019 04:36 PM

My friend got our Wii U out of storage so I had to binge Wind Waker all weekend.


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