Music Banter - Your Day

Exactly. Their interpersonal dynamic is/has become clearly dysfunctional and has only led to a toxic situation. Pursuing that dynamic, even in a non-romantic context, is not going to lead to anything different. Besides that, she's a heroin addict. You can't save an addict from themselves and any compassion you give will not provide any real, tangible help for her and certainly none that would counteract the harm that continuing to associate with her would.

Compassion for an ex-lover who's life is in shambles is perfectly understandable and natural, but helping a wounded tiger can easily end up with you mauled to death.

Not true. Most addicts are disenfranchised individuals who feel disconnected from society. They use the drugs as an escape. By simply lending a little compassion can help.

Lucem Ferre

12-05-2016 04:04 PM

I wasn't meaning to be dick. It's just that Ki has been a whiny pussy, we all have **** we are going through, he's constantly whining. So no, having emotions doesn't make you the pussy. It's how you portray them.

Edit: I mean that in the nicest way possible. We all have moments when we are whiny pussies.

Exo	12-05-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1778621)

Not true. Most addicts are disenfranchised individuals who feel disconnected from society. They use the drugs as an escape. By simply lending a little compassion can help.

False. You may know some unique cases but every single person I know who has used heroin has taken advantage of the kindness of others and I've know a lot of heroin users.

Exo	12-05-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1778624)

You're still being a dick.

Paedantic Basterd

12-05-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1778624)

God forbid he deals with things differently than you do.

Blank.

12-05-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1778625)

False. You may know some unique cases but every single person I know who has used heroin has taken advantage of the kindness of others and I've know a lot of heroin users.

Anecdotal. When most people try to help addicts they actually push them further away. People commonly tell them how they're screwing up their lives. That's not what they need to hear. Addicts need to hear that they have someone they can talk to and confide in.

The Batlord

12-05-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1778621)

Not true. Most addicts are disenfranchised individuals who feel disconnected from society. They use the drugs as an escape. By simply lending a little compassion can help.

I've been good friends with an addict. He was a cluster**** of a human being, and if being friends with him taught me something it's that it honestly normalizes their situation so that being a drug addict no longer feels so terrible, cause hey, this guy is sticking by me. Or at least that's how I perceived it.

And to be perfectly honest I think compassion for an addict who isn't seeking out help on their own might very well have the opposite effect, as now that you're making explicit to them that their behavior is NOT normal, and in fact is pitiable, it will only widen the gulf between them and non-addict society. If you were having money troubles and I just walked up to you and handed you a hundred dollars unsolicited for you to pay your rent, would it make you feel better or worse?