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Paedantic Basterd 12-05-2016 03:29 PM

I'm a big proponent of "if you don't put yourself first, nobody else will". There comes a time when you cannot afford to continue to care about the plights of the people who hurt you, because they certainly do not care about yours. It takes more emotional fortitude to "return to normal" with a person who has harmed you than can be expected of anybody. I am certainly not strong enough. If you need to cut and run, you do it.

Key 12-05-2016 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778590)
Fair enough. Easier said than done. "You must do what you think is right, of course." Compassion is a good start. Maybe if you go up to her, talk to her, ask her if you can help out with anything (within your means), that act of compassion may open the door to something.

The thing is, my compassion and "giving" is what put her in the position she's in now. I was too nice because it was my first relationship, so now I'm trying to learn to not do that for her. I know deep down I should not help her because it's time for me to move on. But it's hard when she's still able to be manipulative passively. I know where you're coming from, but if you were in my place, it'd be you saying what I'm saying. Trust me.

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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778594)
Just thought of something else, Ki. Moving would solve some of your immediate problems. Do you have the means to move?

I shouldn't have to move, that's my point. I've lived here my whole life. She hasn't. She's told me she wanted to go home, so she rented a car. Why the hell is she back here then? For no other reason than to exist where I exist. It's ****ty.

Zhanteimi 12-05-2016 03:30 PM

Does LiL have your virginity?

Key 12-05-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1778592)
Here's a recent text message conversation between my ex and I.

her: How are you?
Me: Go **** yourself
Her: Oh come on. I want to talk. I miss you
Me: Yeah, well I miss your cunt. that's it.

I don't concern myself with her because my life is in tatters that I don't need to be rekindling the past to only realize how much I miss her.

Your life isn't in the best situation pal. Instead of thinking about her, you need to think about how you're going to get on your feet.

I think the big part of this is that I know her tone. So when she texts me (somehow getting my number even though she's blocked and mine has changed) I know exactly what she wants, even if she's not saying it.

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1778596)
I'm a big proponent of "if you don't put yourself first, nobody else will". There comes a time when you cannot afford to continue to care about the plights of the people who hurt you, because they certainly do not care about yours. It takes more emotional fortitude to "return to normal" with a person who has harmed you than can be expected of anybody. I am certainly not strong enough. If you need to cut and run, you do it.

I do try to put myself forward but I was never able to do that over the past couple years so this is all new to me.

Key 12-05-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778598)
Does LiL have your virginity?

Yes. And I own the cat we both raised. And I've never been able to get rid of that guilt as she tries to bring it up whenever she can.

Zhanteimi 12-05-2016 03:32 PM

That explains a lot. You bonded your soul to hers, and now it's bleeding inside from being ripped away.

Key 12-05-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778601)
That explains a lot. You bonded your soul to hers, and now it's bleeding inside from being ripped away.

That makes a lot of sense.

The Batlord 12-05-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1778596)
I'm a big proponent of "if you don't put yourself first, nobody else will". There comes a time when you cannot afford to continue to care about the plights of the people who hurt you, because they certainly do not care about yours. It takes more emotional fortitude to "return to normal" with a person who has harmed you than can be expected of anybody. I am certainly not strong enough. If you need to cut and run, you do it.

Exactly. Their interpersonal dynamic is/has become clearly dysfunctional and has only led to a toxic situation. Pursuing that dynamic, even in a non-romantic context, is not going to lead to anything different. Besides that, she's a heroin addict. You can't save an addict from themselves and any compassion you give will not provide any real, tangible help for her and certainly none that would counteract the harm that continuing to associate with her would.

Compassion for an ex-lover who's life is in shambles is perfectly understandable and natural, but helping a wounded tiger can easily end up with you mauled to death.

Paedantic Basterd 12-05-2016 03:58 PM

Batlord, I did not know you possessed such wisdom. This is a compliment, not a scathing critique.

Exo 12-05-2016 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1778611)
Exactly. Their interpersonal dynamic is/has become clearly dysfunctional and has only led to a toxic situation. Pursuing that dynamic, even in a non-romantic context, is not going to lead to anything different. Besides that, she's a heroin addict. You can't save an addict from themselves and any compassion you give will not provide any real, tangible help for her and certainly none that would counteract the harm that continuing to associate with her would.

Compassion for an ex-lover who's life is in shambles is perfectly understandable and natural, but helping a wounded tiger can easily end up with you mauled to death.

This is all true. I know from experience. That girl can only help herself and if Ki gets involved she's only going to use him to get what she needs. Do you know how many promises my brother made to me only to break it as soon as he got what he wanted? I lost count.


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