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**Frownland** · 06-04-2019, 01:15 PM

There's no "license" but OSHA does have a certification for it.

**Frownland** · 06-04-2019, 01:30 PM

DwnWthVwls · 06-04-2019, 01:54 PM

Do you actually know the answer or did you expect him to read all that ish?

**Frownland** · 06-04-2019, 01:55 PM

CTRL+F
Enter "training"
Boom
Recover from nearby explosion
Check the page again and the training requirements should be easy to find

DwnWthVwls · 06-04-2019, 01:57 PM

I'm good. I get my fill of government paperwork at work.

Lucem Ferre · 06-04-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I suppose you could get certified on your own accord to possibly skip doing grunt work

it's just not mandated you have it

No you need extra training beyond the certification if you're working in tight spaces, from what I understand from our last safety meeting.

The reason why it's not mandated to to have the certificate in order to operate a forklift is because you're aloud to use one if you're being 'trained' which I wasn't. I was literally thrown on one and had to figure it out as I went with the actual forklifters helping me when they had the time. So if Osha asks about it they tell them I'm being trained on the forklift, but if an accident were to happen, like that time I accidentally knocked three towers of empty kegs over, and somebody were to get hurt I'm sure they'd be in trouble. These are the type of corners that get cut when they owners are cheap.

Even scarier is the lack of QC on the beer that goes into kegs. They do tons of QC on cans and bottles to make sure nothing is contaminated but kegs, which probably needs it more, have literally no QC. Nobody makes sure that the beer in the kegs isn't contaminated after it goes into kegs. Combine that with the fact that the keg cleaning side of the filler gets extremely diluted with the dirty water that comes back after two hours to the point it's useless, nobody even knew that until I started checking the solution because nobody knew how much acid we needed to poor into the solution in the first place, and I guarantee with out me there nobody is making sure it gets replaced despite me bringing this gross issue up with literally everybody and you're basically drinking beer from kegs that were rinsed with rancid water back washed from kegs that had beer in them for months, maybe even years. I'm surprised nobody had gotten sick before I found this out. It's had to have been going on for years. If it ends up biting them in the ass in the future it's all on them since they've been warned. I even asked if we could do a bacteria test to make sure kegs are getting clean and they were like "If you want to volunteer to do that over a few months you can." That's way over my pay, good to see you care about quality. Well, only right after your lack of QC bites you in the ass (which is strangely every January) and you decide to crack down for a month or two.

Lucem Ferre · 06-04-2019, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor

well yeah your employer has to give you a minimum amount of training and put your name on a certificate that says you received said training

I suppose in the strictest sense that is what it means to be certified

I think there's an actual certification course you have to pass. Nobody I worked with, except the inventory people (and I'm assuming) had any kind of certificate. We all just worked under that 'training' loophole.

I know that once you get certified there are plenty of jobs that will give you $20/hr just for having it.

Lucem Ferre · 06-04-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

what I'm saying is nobody I work with takes an official anything

all the training material is from the company, and they gave us the answers to the "test" (which again did not come from OSHA)

you can get a $20/hr job because you have experience I would assume

Then they are acting lawfully. Where as my company isn't.

Nope. You need to be certified. I doubt anybody that is going to pay that much is going to **** around with that.

**Frownland** · 06-04-2019, 02:10 PM

OSHA requires either their course or a company-provided one. You got the latter. If your company is found to have inadequate training, they're officially ****ed by OSHA.

trends=/=rules

DwnWthVwls · 06-04-2019, 02:14 PM

Aye, I have a certificate for HAZWOPER and we are trained either on or off site by people with the credentials to train. OSHA themselves aren't training us. We also do an annual 8 hour refresher course. The person who trained me printed/signed my cert and made the test based on what she taught us.

06-04-2019, 01:15 PM	#62041 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	There's no "license" but OSHA does have a certification for it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-04-2019, 01:30 PM	#62042 (permalink)
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06-04-2019, 01:55 PM	#62044 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	CTRL+F Enter "training" Boom Recover from nearby explosion Check the page again and the training requirements should be easy to find __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-04-2019, 02:10 PM	#62049 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	OSHA requires either their course or a company-provided one. You got the latter. If your company is found to have inadequate training, they're officially ***ed by OSHA. trends=/=rules __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x