Anteater - falls for cutesy attempts to rebrand grunt work jobs, thinks waste procurement specialists are different from garbagemen

I will concede that if you only care about money, aren't interested in that liberal work life balance myth, and have no passions, interests, skill sets, or literally anything else in your life worth pursuing, then a 60k base salary telemarketing gig is a slam dunk.

So many stupid assumptions that I'm a little taken aback. Do you really believe that? Are you really saying that someone who makes 60k a year versus 10 or 15k a year isn't in a better position to pursue their passions more freely than someone who can't even cover rent or food?

I've coordinated and been the keynote speaker at several sales training events. Hokey advice for people who are unaware of their privilege is nothing new to me, but don't let that keep you from congratulating yourself on your business genius.

Yes I really believe that a dead end telemarketing position is ideal for the person I described.

Are you?

I didn't know joining Facebook groups and looking for job opportunities in real-time was the result of magical privilege. I had it all wrong.

A high base salary plus commissions for setting inbound appointments from people calling in with normal work hours certainly sounds worse than working in a warehouse at Amazon or the airport 8+ hours straight. You got me there.

Case in point tbh.

TFW you're vehemently making the case for how great telemarketing is.

What color is the sky?


Anything is better than what he's doing right now. Case in point.

When you work for a marketing company that has clients in specific niches (like real estate, insurance, certain kinds of medical services, technology products, etc.), then qualifying a lead would be taking a call from someone who opted in via Facebook Messenger (or booked an appointment via that business's online calendar) to your company who is interested in the services those clients provide their target market. All sales organizations have people who handle different stages depending on where that lead is in the sales cycle.

This is different from what Frown keeps bringing up. In a telemarketing job, your primary goal is to make outbound calls to businesses on a list of some kind, but in most cases the close rates on those aren't high because they're cold traffic. In most cases, they've probably never even heard of the company you are calling for.

Ivory.

Great advice, I can tell you're a man who knows his business.

^ I actually agree with your points there elph. Most people can become good in some form of sales (some people are good with outbound, meeting new people, etc. Others are better making existing clients happier or have some other related talent). Unfortunately, a lot of companies also just have a bad revenue model and/or ****ty products.

I clarified a few things in my last post.

Wait, really?

That's like saying that print marketing isn't marketing because digital marketing operates differently. It's cleanly in the same category (and still sucks pretty bad).