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OccultHawk 10-29-2020 01:00 PM

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no. it's because all the other things you mention have never been marginalised by law, and people haven't been systematically killed over it
Honestly, if your IQ was 85 what do you think you would be doing to make a living?

Access to a better livelihood is absolutely life or death in a capitalist economy. Property is a legal term and without it you die in the cold. It’s absolutely systematic and the backbone of every western democracy.

jwb 10-29-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2141674)
Don't lie to yourself.

You'll still use it on the forum.

This is far from the first controversy. I'm fairly sure they had a ban threat on the word because Bats was using it all the time.

can you read? I said I still use it. I stopped when I first came back but I see other people using it so I figured why should I not get to also. But I'll stop. On here.

No offense to anyone who is actually illiterate btw. Not that you'll see this disclaimer anyway.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2020 01:03 PM

Thinking wealth correlates with intelligence is such a bourgeois concept.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2141710)
can you read? I said I still use it. I stopped when I first came back but I see other people using it so I figured why should I not get to also. But I'll stop. On here.

No offense to anyone who is actually illiterate btw. Not that you'll see this disclaimer anyway.

And I said you won't stop. Meaning on here.

Marie Monday 10-29-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2141708)
most truly affective insults have collateral damage

You mentioned previously you already acknowledge this but you draw a line somewhere so you see the f word as worse than bitch etc. I agree. I just have as different line than you. I wouldn't call someone the n word regardless of the context. It's bad enough that I don't use it. I used bitch more liberally than the f word. Same with retard. Even less serious are words like stupid, dumb, blind, etc. I don't disagree some words are more harmful than others. But all of these words embrace stigmas and stereotypes that affect entire groups of people. So we both have a line. My line is different from yours.

that's true. I also think it's excusable (to a certain extent) to cross your own line a bit when you're really provoked
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2141709)
Honestly, if your IQ was 85 what do you think you would be doing to make a living?

Access to a better livelihood is absolutely life or death in a capitalist economy. Property is a legal term and without it you die in the cold. It’s absolutely systematic and the backbone of every western democracy.

I'm pretty sure my brains won't ever make me rich, or even averagely wealthy. I know many smart poor people, but even when you admit that it's easier to get rich when you're smart I wouldn't say the average dumb person is so poor they die (certainly not in Holland of course)

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2141713)
easier to get rich when you're smart

So I'm doomed to poverty?

Marie Monday 10-29-2020 01:20 PM

oh you know I think you're smart, do you really need me to say it?

OccultHawk 10-29-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2141711)
Thinking wealth correlates with intelligence is such a bourgeois concept.

There’s never been a surgeon with an IQ 85 or less. You can argue IQ doesn’t measure intelligence but it definitely measures a certain type of problem solving. Rich people aren’t more intelligent but having the sort of brain power that will get you around 120 plus IQ gives a person a ****ton more options. Other things can **** that up but there are still tons of things you cannot do no matter how hard you try if your IQ is below a certain point. And it’s just luck of the draw.

The entire idea of tying a person’s worth with any type of merit based system is cruel and bigoted. You throw the word stupid out there as an insult you’re saying that all stupid people are inherently worth less as human beings. Throughout the course of human history I’m sure stupid people as a whole have had it harder than black people.

jwb 10-29-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2141712)
And I said you won't stop. Meaning on here.

ironically enough I misread you lol.

I will stop though. It's not a hill I'm willing to die on.

OccultHawk 10-29-2020 01:25 PM

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I'm pretty sure my brains won't ever make me rich, or even averagely wealthy. I know many smart poor people, but even when you admit that it's easier to get rich when you're smart I wouldn't say the average dumb person is so poor they die (certainly not in Holland of course)
ffs you teach physics

go wash dishes for a few years and then tell me the difference isn’t astronomical


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