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jwb 10-29-2020 02:24 PM

Maybe I'm not understanding you exactly. Cause the way I used the f word was to emasculate a man who was probably already a basic run of the mill black southern homophobe. So I was attacking his masculinity because that's a point of pride to attack. How is it that's worse than calling him stupid if as you just said you view the two cases similarly?

Keep in mind, I actually do think it would've been less harmful to call him stupid but it also wouldn't have carried the same punch. I'm just curious because this seems contradictory to me.

Marie Monday 10-29-2020 02:49 PM

No you're right, there's no difference. The thing is purely that Hawk phrased it as considering someone less worthy, and I don't feel like that's accurate. If I look down on someone for some reason, does that mean I consider them less worthy as a human being? That seems a bit dramatic

OccultHawk 10-29-2020 02:52 PM

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If I look down on someone for some reason, does that mean I consider them less worthy as a human being?
lol

Yes. That’s exactly what looking down at someone means.

Marie Monday 10-29-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2141738)
lol

Yes. That’s exactly what looking down at someone means.

If you define it like that then yes.
But is that really an accurate definition? Maybe this is exaggerated, but to me someone's worth sounds like the value of someone's life. You said so too I think: 'You throw the word stupid out there as an insult you’re saying that all stupid people are inherently worth less as human beings.' And I definitely don't think a dumb person's life is worth less than that of a smart person. In general I would never think that someone's life was worth less just because I happen to have a lower opinion of them.

The Batlord 10-29-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2141691)
jftr some of the most maligned people are those with lower IQ’s or less education

others are socially awkward

perhaps you fall outside typical standards of beauty

maybe you can’t write very well

maybe you’re fat

maybe you’re cruel even

Keep my name out yo mouth, bitch.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2141731)
You realize this means nothing right? We're talking about averages. Statistics. It's not a 1 to 1 correlation between IQ and wealth, but IQ is a relevant variable in predicting wealth.

Finding exceptions to a general statistical trend is not an argument against said trend.

Not relevant enough to warrant the idea that having a lower IQ will prevent you from gaining wealth like it was implied.

That goes back to the fact that IQ tests really just measure who's more motivated to succeed more than intelligence but you don't like that statistic.

Outside of disabilities, which don't always mean you're dumb, I think intelligence is way too static of a concept to really make this kind of statement.

In my personal experience the average dish washer has no less or more cognitive ability than more successful people we're just less educated.

The Batlord 10-29-2020 04:02 PM

TBH I always assume people who rail the most against IQ tests did poorly on one.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2141753)
TBH I always assume people who rail the most against IQ tests did poorly on one.

Never took one personally.

But I actually do really good on tests.

Like despite failing my algebra class I got the highest score in the end of year test not missing a single question.

The Batlord 10-29-2020 04:16 PM

Yeah sure.

Lucem Ferre 10-29-2020 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2141758)
Yeah sure.

Eat my shit.


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