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Guybrush 05-22-2021 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2173850)
all vinyl records are redundant at this point. It's just a novelty item.

"But I'm an audiophile...."

Bitch please :rolleyes:

Pretty much my reaction to this too, especially after getting more into music production.

jwb 05-22-2021 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2173856)
not if you're buying something that was made to be pressed to vinyl

it's not about sounding "better" but it 100% sounds different

don't care lol

Whatever minute sound difference it has it outweighed by the inconvenience of the physical medium and the maintenance required

Unless you're a dork who enjoys that sorta thing cause it's vintage in which case see: novelty item

Guybrush 05-22-2021 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2173862)
don't care lol

Whatever minute sound difference it has it outweighed by the inconvenience of the physical medium and the maintenance required

Unless you're a dork who enjoys that sorta thing cause it's vintage in which case see: novelty item

I hear cassettes have made a comeback which is even more of a mystery to me. They're small with small art and not as displayable, so not as good a collectible. Plus, who wants to blindly rewind or fast forward to change songs?

We wanna rid the world of plastic waste and reduce co2 footprints, yet we're gonna produce these outdated mediums that noone really needs.

The Batlord 05-22-2021 01:43 AM

Bro don't argue with trendy bourgious white people. They know what's real.

Marie Monday 05-22-2021 03:49 AM

Thats not a valid analogy lol

Guybrush 05-22-2021 03:57 AM

I would say the inconvenience of having to take the record out and place it on the turntable etc. is part of what you pay for with LPs. People miss the more tangible experience connected to music listening and let's admit it.. sleeves, especially gatefolds, are pretty nice.

But sound quality is worse if anything, though I fully expect people may enjoy the thinner sound you get from having to master out low end to preserve groove space.

Cassettes don't make any sense for me because even the experience of using them sucks. I remember how inconvenient they were back in the day and how ****ty I thought they were compared to CDs and even LPs. I never missed them. They're the worst.

Guybrush 05-22-2021 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2173869)
you can buy random goofy stuff that might not even be uploaded to the web yet (until you do it) for 25¢ at thrift stores

This scenario is so fake and contrived. Getting your music on services like Spotify and YouTube music is as cheap as getting a distrokid account, can even be done for free, and is likely much easier than making "cheap" cassettes.

Guybrush 05-22-2021 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2173873)
why not all of the above

I'm not dissing on using Spotify, I'm for diversification...I have some stuff I only listen to on cassette

when did Art become about efficiency efficiency efficiency

also Spotify is an entirely **** model for Artists and everyone knows it

For various reasons. The days when sharing bootlegs and underground music on cassettes was the most practical option is long gone, so I find the current fad kinda inauthentic. It's just cultural mimicry with no real basis to it other than it being fad-y.

But mostly, it bothers me due to the reason posted above. If people wanna listen to tapes, someone has to make tape decks and someone has to make tapes. These things have to be shipped by container ships and trailers. It creates plastic waste and other kinds of pollution. And all for novelty items which noone needs which are ultimately comparatively impractical.

Trollheart 05-22-2021 05:18 AM

The only thing cassettes were ever good for was when blank ones were the only way to record something. Even then they were inconvenient. Leave one too close to a magnetic field (eg speakers) and you'd lose elements of what was on it (what we used to call drop outs) - "I never meant to cause you - le rain! Purple ra- want to - bathing in the - honey I know..." etc. Jesus it was annoying.

Then as tore says, the mere "inconvenience" of running the tape forward or back (we didn't see it as such then because like I say, there was no other way and so we just accepted it) - if you'd not recorded up to the end of the tape you'd have to fast forward so you could flip it over and not end up in the middle of the first song on the other side of the tape - and as for tangles! Jesus. Every other tape, after a while, would get caught up and ruined. So not only had you this: I CAN'T GET NO-OH SAT-IS-FACTION! I CAN'T GET NOBRLURRBLKEWURBLEWEEIOOOOOOOO...." Tape AND recorder ruined, so you had to extract the cassette from the deck and TRY to untangle the actual magnetic tape from where it had twisted around the spindles before you could use the deck again.

No ****ing thanks. Cassettes were a necessary evil but I never want to go back to the tyranny of the tape again thank you very much.

Guybrush 05-22-2021 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2173879)
No ****ing thanks. Cassettes were a necessary evil but I never want to go back to the tyranny of the tape again thank you very much.

This. I've never met a person who grew up with cassette tapes who ever thought highly of them.


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