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jadis 08-24-2021 10:54 PM

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I'm cool with that. Just take it from a truly unbecame man that the pseudo-academic bloated self-justification is unbecoming.
Buddy, the only reason you believe what you believe is that various academic languages seep into everyday life.

Conversely, you may find high-minded concepts like "I crack gay jokes because I like being judged" intimidating, but it's not what Judith Butler writes about.

Frownland 08-24-2021 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2182537)
Buddy, the only reason you believe what you believe is that various academic languages seep into everyday life.

Conversely, you may find high-minded concepts like "I crack gay jokes because I like being judged" intimidating, but it's not what Judith Butler writes about.

Ja I'm a big bad dumb guy. What I said still stands.

jadis 08-24-2021 11:04 PM

Bad? Come on, you're one of the good guys. You just seem insecure and easily riled more than anything. Which is fine too. On some level everyone is.

Frownland 08-24-2021 11:07 PM

Eat a dick loser

adidasss 08-25-2021 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2182518)
Nah, not really. One has to remember that no two people have the same exact frame of reference, that not every joke lands the way it's intended etc. But usually when familiarity and with it a common frame of expectations have been established, and you know you're on safe ground, then yeah, I usually say what I want in the confidence that it wouldn't be misconstrued.

I assumed that was the case, at least to a degree, with me and a few users on this platform: I remember joking around about lesbian friends and their mating habits, for example.

Maybe I was wrong (this is the first anonymous forum I've used since like 2006, not saying I always read the room correctly), maybe Batlord likes the woke high ground a bit too much, dunno. But then I also can't be bothered to care what someone like adidasss thinks about me: life's too short.

Putting aside your unfortunate attempts at humour, I don't really think we disagree. I think you're kind of a dick, you sort of acknowledge that yourself.

To be clear, I think you're a dick not because you read Foucault or like The Fall. It's because on several occasions you were rude to people without any real provocation.

And because you seem to assign value to people based on what type of music they listen to.

I value people based on how they treat other people. Which is why:
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Originally Posted by Key (Post 2182535)
I've met a ton of great people online and often times it is due to the fact that we tend to have the same twisted sense of humor but there are certain boundaries depending on the person. In a perfect world, yeah I wish the internet wouldn't chastise people for what they say but it doesnt work that way. It's never a bad idea to be cautious on the internet because we arent all computer screens. We are human beings. We all have emotions and some show them more than others. I suppose it's good to have a mix of messed up humor and general empathy and kindness towards others. Theres a line there somewhere.

Definitely agree with your last point.

Although I don't think we listen to the same music, I really quite like Key. He seems like a nice person. :)

That's all. Carry on...
Spoiler for spoiler:
being a dick. If that's what turns you on. :/

Marie Monday 08-25-2021 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2182514)
I had one (1) lesbian have issues with me, for which I was blasted by a guy who hates me for disliking mid-2000 indie, and who happens to be gay.

The reason I felt comfortable making a gag about those two (2) misadventures with the LGBTQ community? Because my social circle and cultural world could hardly be any more removed from any whiff of homophobia, and I feel extremely secure joking about it. Walking on eggshells about this kind of stuff is extremely tedious, though I obv have to do it in the professional context as we all do.

You choose to stress the LGBTQ aspect in the first place, even though it's utterly irrelevant. In my experience, preoccupation is a often a first sign (or last remnant of) discrimination, like how it's a red flag when someone chooses to mention that someone is black for no reason. I think that's why adi reacted like that. For the record, I don't think you're a homophobe, certainly not in theory. I think you're attempting to bait as some kind of flex: see who's (in your eyes) simple minded enough to complain about homophobia, and then you get to diss them from your enlightened point of view, yay!
Which is something we've all seen before too many times here, it's not interesting or intimidating, it's pretty cheap and tedious. Also not a good way to find like-minded people.

The Batlord 08-25-2021 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2182518)
Nah, not really. One has to remember that no two people have the same exact frame of reference, that not every joke lands the way it's intended etc. But usually when familiarity and with it a common frame of expectations have been established, and you know you're on safe ground, then yeah, I usually say what I want in the confidence that it wouldn't be misconstrued.

I assumed that was the case, at least to a degree, with me and a few users on this platform: I remember joking around about lesbian friends and their mating habits, for example.

Maybe I was wrong (this is the first anonymous forum I've used since like 2006, not saying I always read the room correctly), maybe Batlord likes the woke high ground a bit too much, dunno. But then I also can't be bothered to care what someone like adidasss thinks about me: life's too short.

Maybe you're **** at humor or not as self-aware as you like to think you are.

Lisnaholic 08-25-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2182482)
You look a little boxed-in, if I'm honest...

:laughing: I'm hoping to extend my mortgage and move into a bigger avatar next year, TH.

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2182505)


Side stepping jadis tying this clip to a lesbian he knows, I gotta say there's something I don't like about it: people who put on a silly voice then imagine that whatever they say will be amusing. As well as bad comics on tv, I knew a guy in High School who relied on the same technique and it's driven me crazy ever since.

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2182541)
Although I don't think we listen to the same music, I really quite like Key. He seems like a nice person. :)

times two

Psy-Fi 08-25-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2182366)
Lol dunno but you can buy it and then rent it out to methheads. Being a landlord seems like easy money.

Invest in REIT's, instead. Save yourself from the hassle of being a landlord.

jadis 08-25-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2182542)
You choose to stress the LGBTQ aspect in the first place, even though it's utterly irrelevant.

I don't know about that, I thought there was something very funny about a mildly autistic woman at a friendly lesbian neighborhood coffeeshop deciding she absolutely despises this one unpleasant guy who wouldn't smile at her jokes.

Like, funny as in how predictable or stereotypic that dynamic was.

The lesbian thing was a big part of the setting so I couldn't omit it.

Can't argue with the rest, apologies for whatever unpleasantness I caused.


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