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Frownland 05-22-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2173869)
you can buy random goofy stuff that might not even be uploaded to the web yet (until you do it) for 25¢ at thrift stores

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 2173872)
This scenario is so fake and contrived. Getting your music on services like Spotify and YouTube music is as cheap as getting a distrokid account, can even be done for free, and is likely much easier than making "cheap" cassettes.

Nah, weird thrift store tapes are a legitimate thing. Most of them date back to the 80s and 90s before it was so easy to upload your music to the web.

Also let's see you run the tape from your distrokid account across the room to warble the sound while it plays. Until then, cassettes have a place.

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 2173882)
Something that is special about media like music, books and films is that their digital representations serve us very well, so western society could basically get on just fine without these things existing physically even today.

Information is physical, and storing it indefinitely will likely contribute to a wider negative environmental impact than the one-time production of physical media.

Guybrush 05-22-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2173900)
Information is physical, and storing it indefinitely will likely contribute to a wider negative environmental impact than the one-time production of physical media.

Yes, there's stuff like server upkeep power consumption. This will get greener as we change to cleaner and more sustainable power sources.

But all in all, the digital versions are here to stay. At least until the digital apocalypse comes. You could possibly make the argument that we should turn the servers off, produce only the bare minimum of what we need in terms of physical mediums and live a cleaner existence that way in the very long run, but it would seem unlikely and non-sensical

Frownland 05-22-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 2173906)
Yes, there's stuff like server upkeep power consumption. This will get greener as we change to cleaner and more sustainable power sources.

Oh good, it'll just fix itself.

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You could possibly make the argument that we should turn the servers off, produce only what we need in terms of physical mediums and live a cleaner existence that way in the very long run, but it would seem unlikely and non-sensical
Then you agree that it was pretty silly of you to introduce that as a point against cassettes.

Guybrush 05-22-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2173907)
Then you agree that it was pretty silly of you to introduce that as a point against cassettes.

Applying just a bit of logic, you might realise that the servers where music and movies can be stored is also an important backbone piece of infrastructure that also enables pretty much the Internet and all the services that exist there.

Can the same be said for tape decks?

Frownland 05-22-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 2173909)
Applying just a bit of logic, you might realise that the servers where music and movies can be stored is also an important backbone piece of infrastructure that also enables pretty much the Internet and all the services that exist there.

Can the same be said for tape decks?

The transportation and polymer industries that you pinned on cassettes both have wide reaching uses, yes.

Marie Monday 05-22-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2173887)
Actually, I can see where he’s coming from with that.
With a live band, you can’t have them move ahead to
a favorite song. On YouTube, you can. So saying that
you can’t easily move ahead on a cassette is missing
the point.

Yeah that's not what his point was about though.

In any case:
There are different sounds to every medium, but for most people (including me) it's definitely mostly about the aesthetic. There's nothing wrong with that. For me it lies in childhood memories because my grandpa and my mom used to play me lps when I was a kid. And also the reason I started buying records is that some things aren't available in digital form, or if they are, not for free. And if I'm gonna pay for music I want the fun physical object. But yeah, the snobbishness that some people feel about it is nonsense

Guybrush 05-22-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2173911)
The transportation and polymer industries that you pinned on cassettes both have wide reaching uses, yes.

Alright, I'll concede. Please then, if you can, what is the point you're trying to make?

Edit:

I'll clarify my own; we can pollute less by not producing physical mediums (besides servers/data storage) for distributing media like books, movies and music.

Frownland 05-22-2021 11:22 AM

Cassettes are fine.

Mindfulness 05-22-2021 11:23 AM

Started a 2nd Snapchat group!

Had a fight last week and someone in the first group(that is 7 years deep now), said "Create a new group then!"


So I did.... https://i.imgur.com/N0W9kVR.png

All new people!



Have a nice day musicbanters!

Guybrush 05-22-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2173914)
Cassettes are fine.

Pff, knew it.


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