Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

**Goofle** · 05-03-2017, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I agree with this.

Obviously it's completely hypothetical, but I don't think it would be. I think given the other kinds of things our societies have gone on to achieve regarding rights and equality I think it would have been outlawed regardless of religious connotations.

But that comes from the standpoint that we care more about the health and safety of women than men.

DwnWthVwls · 05-03-2017, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Equating the two is pretty ****ing stupid and a terrible way to try and make the point some of you are trying to make.

No one is equating the two except by saying they both violate human rights. Or are you going to sit here and argue with me that murder and speeding are not both breaking the law?

Isbjørn · 05-03-2017, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

No one is equating the two except by saying they both violate human rights. Or are you going to sit here and argue with me that murder and speeding are not both breaking the law?

I'm against both. I'm just more against female circumsision.

Compare the different procedures. Which one is more harmful? I think the answer is obvious. Why is it wrong to bring that up?

DwnWthVwls · 05-03-2017, 03:57 AM

I was talking to Chula. Sorry Briks.

Edit: the consequences of circumsion are life ling too.

DwnWthVwls · 05-03-2017, 04:52 AM

Can you give some examples of these achievements?

**Goofle** · 05-03-2017, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Can you give some examples of these achievements?

Abolition of slavery and equal voting rights. Creating the most free societies by pretty much any metric.

OccultHawk · 05-03-2017, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Abolition of slavery and equal voting rights. Creating the most free societies by pretty much any metric.

Abolition of slavery an achievement? Did the father who stopped molesting his daughter when she went off to college also achieve something?

**Goofle** · 05-03-2017, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Abolition of slavery an achievement? Did the father who stopped molesting his daughter when she went off to college also achieve something?

Considering slavery still exists in many places across the world I think it's fair to say that it was a giant leap forward for the countries who abolished it.

**Goofle** · 05-03-2017, 06:14 AM

Why would anyone willingly choose to have their foreskin removed if no medical issue was involved? The only reasons you would do so are either religious, or to appease women/men who think it looks more attractive. But I'd suggest raising your standards in partner.

DwnWthVwls · 05-03-2017, 09:27 AM

Stop trying to equate things and take the example questions for what they are.. Questions to determine logical consistency. If you're okay with one and not that other than please explain the logic you use to draw that conclusion. You're only argument is, I'm okay with it so who cares. It's not a big deal to you.

Let's take this to a more comparable example: Is it okay for parents to have their babys tongue split at birth? It's safer, they won't remember it, they will never know the difference, and they won't lose any sensation or ability to use their tongue. PLUS, it's reversible. This is actually less detrimental than circumcision because of the last two points. So what is your argument against that?

(not you specifically elph, just in the general sense for anyone taking your position. even if youre okay with it the majority of the US would cry out in horror)