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djchameleon 05-04-2017 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1831592)
Argue to me how. And if youre going to argue about the pontential MINOR health risks associated with keeping it then why arent we removing tonsils and appendixes? Its cosmetic, you just dont want it to be because your position is ****ed without it.
Minor health risks are the main reason that it became so popular and that doctors recommended it.

Yes, there are a minority that do it for religious purposes or they just don't like the way that it looks but those two reasons aren't the main reason it became acceptable in the states and other progressive areas.

You savages should all live together in the same place forcing your kids to keep their foreskin.

DwnWthVwls 05-04-2017 04:52 AM
So your position is parents have the right to modify their childs body to prevent any potential minor health risks in the future? And again i ask what about tonsils and appendixes? By your reasoning those need to go to, you dont get to cherry pick, sorry.

djchameleon 05-04-2017 04:53 AM
Yes the difference between those other two organs that you mentioned is that they don't have to be removed til they become a problem. Circumcision is better done to a baby.

DwnWthVwls 05-04-2017 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1831596)
Yes the difference between those other two organs that you mentioned is that they don't have to be removed til they become a problem.
and neither does a foreskin.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1831596)
Circumcision is better done to a baby.
Im still waiting for an explanation of the differences in the procedure for babies and grown men other than the fact that adults can bitch about the pain and babies cant. Is there a biological difference in the way babies heal?


Edit: I have to go to work now, but if you can justify your "it's better for babies" argument than I have nothing more to say, atm. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Thank you for being the only person to actually represent your position in a logically consistent way. You'll still have to explain the bolded though.

djchameleon 05-04-2017 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1831597)
and neither does a foreskin.



Im still waiting for an explanation of the differences in the procedure for babies and grown men other than the fact that adults can bitch about the pain and babies cant. Is there a biological difference in the way babies heal?


Edit: I have to go to work now, but if you can justify your "it's better for babies" argument than I have nothing more to say, atm. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Thank you for being the only person to actually represent your position in a logically consistent way. You'll still have to explain the bolded though.
I don't have time to post the links but there are higher complications when doing it as an adult. It isn't about the healing process. Just more is likely to go wrong with the procedure. Will post links later.

Cuthbert 05-04-2017 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1831593)
You savages should all live together in the same place forcing your kids to keep their foreskin.
Stop being ridiculous please, they wouldn't be forced to keep it. They would be free to have the circumcision - when they are old enough to decide for themselves.

djchameleon 05-04-2017 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1831610)
Stop being ridiculous please, they wouldn't be forced to keep it. They would be free to have the circumcision - when they are old enough to decide for themselves.
I posted that to make fun of Goofle's melodramatic statements and whining over how brutal and mutilating it is.

Goofle 05-04-2017 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1831611)
I posted that to make fun of Goofle's melodramatic statements and whining over how brutal and mutilating it is.
Dude, you've said to me that you're not even necessarily against Female Genital Mutilation because you think the parents should be able to make decisions like that.

I'm happy to stand against both and have argued my reasons for it. If you would care to argue for these procedures, go ahead.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1831586)
quite sure we discovered that wasn't the case last time we discussed that. i'm in a rush so i can't find the source but i'll post it after work.
As somebody with a working foreskin, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the part of the penis with most nerve endings and response is the foreskin itself.

djchameleon 05-04-2017 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1831615)
Dude, you've said to me that you're not even necessarily against Female Genital Mutilation because you think the parents should be able to make decisions like that.

I'm happy to stand against both and have argued my reasons for it. If you would care to argue for these procedures, go ahead.


As somebody with a working foreskin, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the part of the penis with most nerve endings and response is the foreskin itself.
You don't have an experience without working foreskin to know how it feels to your current situation.

Also I only said that on what's app because yes I do believe that the parents should get to choose but not when it comes to FGM.

You and others on your side refuse to just let others have their opinion and let it be. MGM is fine and FGM isn't. It isn't some big equality issue to me either.

Goofle 05-04-2017 09:26 AM
You're completely allowed to have your opinion, just like I'm completely allowed to disagree with you and point out why.


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