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Old 05-04-2017, 12:10 PM   #661 (permalink)
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I own a Nickelback album. I was young and dumb, but it is was it is. And I'd rather listen to it than a Pink Floyd album. Come at me, girly men.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:12 PM   #662 (permalink)
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I own a Nickelback album. I was young and dumb, but it is was it is. And I'd rather listen to it than a Pink Floyd album. Come on me, girly men.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:15 PM   #663 (permalink)
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So feminine traits such as being demure, being supportive, and being subservient to men are positive? I mean the first two can be positive, but they most certainly can be negative. That "chest thumping" masculine aggression can obviously be negative as well when taken to the same extreme that leads women to letting their husband make every decision in the household, but in moderation it's also called motivation.
It's such a cherry picking example he's using.

Men are known for bravery, self reliance, support, confidence, etc. Knowing how to fix a car isn't a bad stereotype to fit into either.

And there are just as many bad female stereotypes like over sensitivity and helplessness. Spending 3 hours in front of the mirror to do your hair. Nagging.

Pros and cons on both sides.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:39 PM   #664 (permalink)
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I'll put it this way

Society would benefit from "men" becoming little more like "women" much more than the other way around
I think society already benefited from women becoming more like men. Otherwise they wouldn't be in the workplace, or breadwinners in the household, or be doing any of the things that society told them they shouldn't do as women. It's just that most of these things are already becoming ingrained in society so that many people don't see them as "not womanly".
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:47 PM   #665 (permalink)
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Cretin A: "My uncircumcised penis is much more sensitive than a circumcised one."

Cretin B: "NO! My circumcised penis is much more sensitive than an uncircumcised one."

Two people who couldn't possibly have any idea about the reverse situation
going at it like a couple of overripe banana-dicks. At least Cretin B could've had
his foreskin removed when he was older (at a much greater risk) and could be speaking for
himself (but still not for others). Cretin A, meanwhile, hasn't a leg to stand on (unless it's a third leg).
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:49 PM   #666 (permalink)
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Society would benefit from "men" becoming little more like "women" much more than the other way around
Not really. Society would benefit from people who be themselves no matter how cliche or different they are. You're trying to force an anti-masculine rhetoric that is just as toxic as the opposing side.

Batlord has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He doesn't change, he just proudly shows his affection for said artists even more.

Ki has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He cries about it then claims to be too afraid to post opinions because he doesn't want to be judged.

We should promote more fearless Batlords rather than force people to accept the Kis. And I feel like you guys are not only trying to force people to accept the Kis, but also demonizing them for not having the same artistic opinions.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:56 PM   #667 (permalink)
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Not really. Society would benefit from people who be themselves no matter how cliche or different they are. You're trying to force an anti-masculine rhetoric that is just as toxic as the opposing side.

Batlord has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He doesn't change, he just proudly shows his affection for said artists even more.

Ki has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He cries about it then claims to be too afraid to post opinions because he doesn't want to be judged.

We should promote more fearless Batlords rather than force people to accept the Kis. And I feel like you guys are not only trying to force people to accept the Kis, but also demonizing them for not having the same artistic opinions.
I promote this post.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:24 PM   #668 (permalink)
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Not really. Society would benefit from people who be themselves no matter how cliche or different they are. You're trying to force an anti-masculine rhetoric that is just as toxic as the opposing side.

Batlord has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He doesn't change, he just proudly shows his affection for said artists even more.

Ki has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He cries about it then claims to be too afraid to post opinions because he doesn't want to be judged.

We should promote more fearless Batlords rather than force people to accept the Kis. And I feel like you guys are not only trying to force people to accept the Kis, but also demonizing them for not having the same artistic opinions.
Why am I being brought into this? gtfo with that ****.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:32 PM   #669 (permalink)
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Why am I being brought into this? gtfo with that ****.
Cause you are the perfect counterpoint to my awesomeness, loser.
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Old 05-04-2017, 02:00 PM   #670 (permalink)
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Not really. Society would benefit from people who be themselves no matter how cliche or different they are. You're trying to force an anti-masculine rhetoric that is just as toxic as the opposing side.

Batlord has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He doesn't change, he just proudly shows his affection for said artists even more.

Ki has artists he likes others hate. He gets **** for it. He cries about it then claims to be too afraid to post opinions because he doesn't want to be judged.

We should promote more fearless Batlords rather than force people to accept the Kis. And I feel like you guys are not only trying to force people to accept the Kis, but also demonizing them for not having the same artistic opinions.
While i agree with your overall point, isn't it kind of like telling someone to be someone they're not when you say they should be like Batlord and not give a ****. Who Ki is is a guy who gives a ****.
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