Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

Lucem Ferre · 08-11-2017, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

This! I really don't get why people feel the need to go out of their way to disrespect how someone wants to be identified.

Why is it so hard to just identify the person they wish to be identified as even if you don't see it? You don't have to live in their skin and experience their day to day life. If you can't simply respect how they choose to identify then why are you even associating with them. Just walk away then you don't have to worry about ******* thoughts like feeding into their delusions.

It's not hard. Again, you'r not giving a **** about MY perspective. I want to be called the almighty lord lucem god and creator. Are you going to do that? Or is there some kind of magical difference that NONE of you can point out?

And I'd much rather NOT push them away or avoid them or treat them like they should be quarantined. That's much ****tier. Like, if a dude walks up to you and says "I identify as a female" and you get up and just walk away is that not just pure disrespect?

What you're doing is FORCING a perspective I don't have onto me. If Bill wants to be called Sally I'll call him Sally all he wants but why should I have to identify him as a female if I don't see him that way? Because some magical rule decides that gender identity issues are more important than any other identity issues?

The Batlord · 08-11-2017, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It amazes me how the same people who will talk sociocultural influence all day will look at male circumcision with an uncritical shrug and a "why not?" It's not the most pressing issue of our day but that doesn't mean it's entirely irrelevant.

This right here.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

It's not hard. Again, you'r not giving a **** about MY perspective. I want to be called the almighty lord lucem god and creator. Are you going to do that? Or is there some kind of magical difference that NONE of you can point out?

And I'd much rather NOT push them away or avoid them or treat them like they should be quarantined. That's much ****tier. Like, if a dude walks up to you and says "I identify as a female" and you get up and just walk away is that not just pure disrespect?

What you're doing is FORCING a perspective I don't have onto me. If Bill wants to be called Sally I'll call him Sally all he wants but why should I have to identify him as a female if I don't see him that way? Because some magical rule decides that gender identity issues are more important than any other identity issues?

Your perspective is irrelevant. All you're being asked to do is call someone what they want to be called. How hard is the path of least resistance?

djchameleon · 08-11-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Kinda like people who think spanking your child is totally fine.

Equating corporal punishment with male circumcision is way out of control and dramatic.

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

this thread isnt for me

Lol

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

It's not hard. Again, you'r not giving a **** about MY perspective. I want to be called the almighty lord lucem god and creator. Are you going to do that? Or is there some kind of magical difference that NONE of you can point out?

And I'd much rather NOT push them away or avoid them or treat them like they should be quarantined. That's much ****tier. Like, if a dude walks up to you and says "I identify as a female" and you get up and just walk away is that not just pure disrespect?

What you're doing is FORCING a perspective I don't have onto me. If Bill wants to be called Sally I'll call him Sally all he wants but why should I have to identify him as a female if I don't see him that way? Because some magical rule decides that gender identity issues are more important than any other identity issues?

If you want to be called an attack helicopter. I would do it. It doesn't take anything away from me to call anyone what they want to.

Both options are disrespectful so you might as well go all the way and just completely ignore them if you find it so hard to do this and it ends up bothering you so much.

You are definitely thinking too much to the point you think there is some magical rule. Someone comes up to you and says their pronouns are they/them. Just address them as such or don't bother interactimg with them at all.

**Goofle** · 08-11-2017, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Equating corporal punishment with male circumcision is way out of control and dramatic.

Hard to say which is worse but I'd say hitting your children. At least male circumcision has cultural/religious reasoning behind it (obviously I understand that's not the most logical thought process) whereas hitting your kids is just being a bad human because you're not a particularly good parent.

djchameleon · 08-11-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Hard to say which is worse but I'd say hitting your children. At least male circumcision has cultural/religious reasoning behind it (obviously I understand that's not the most logical thought process) whereas hitting your kids is just being a bad human because you're not a particularly good parent.

Disciplining your kids doesn't mean you are a bad parent. It is more of a cultural thing too. All those bad ass kids acting out in grocery stores because their parents won't spank them but give them a time out pfft.

Funny video. I'm sure there are white kids that got an ass whooping growing up too but doesn't play into the narrative of his video

~~Cuthbert~~ · 08-11-2017, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Disciplining your kids doesn't mean you are a bad parent

We are specifically on about violence mate, not taking their XBox away or grounding them.

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It is more of a cultural thing too. All those bad ass kids acting out in grocery stores because their parents won't spank them but give them a time out pfft.

Funny video. I'm sure there are white kids that got an ass whooping growing up too but doesn't play into the narrative of his video

Did you read the link Chio posted?

djchameleon · 08-11-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

We are specifically on about violence mate, not taking their XBox away or grounding them.

Spanking isn't violence.

Beating them is violence.

Would you like me to find you a link that says the complete opposite of chio's link. There are studies out there making both claims.