Why does there seem to be a stigma attached to advocate for Men's Rights?

Wpnfire · 08-14-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

For the record, the "grow up child" was in direct reponse to being called an "old man". And you might want to go back and read a few more pages. I catch **** from others here all the time about "my age", "my lack of intellignece", "my naivete", etc. Not sure why you're singling me out.

You catch insults because you spout extremely controversial views. If you're going to do that, you should be prepared to take heat for saying them. I single you out because you can't take the insults. And no one else in this thread has said anything like this so stop hiding behind that excuse:

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I am maybe a bit wiser than some just because of accummulated life experience.

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No-one is going to sway anyone so saying over and over again that your clinical dick is longer than someone elses is pretty dumb.

djchameleon · 08-14-2017, 01:45 PM

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This is off-topic, but if I was a mod, I'd give you a temp-ban for the bolded statements. You make statements, insult people when they disagree with you claiming self-defense, claim you're not arguing, make an attempt at arguing anyway, and to top it all off, you claim you're objectively superior to everybody else (which is also an argument on its face).

Maybe you're not breaking rules with these individual posts, but it's pretty easy to argue that your pattern of behavior is disruptive.

Do you even go here?

He dishes out the same type of hate that he gets from damn near everyone else.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Do you even go here?

He dishes out the same type of hate that he gets from damn near everyone else.

Nah he's definitely way more non-sequitur and contextually inappropriate with his insults than anyone else here.

Chula Vista · 08-14-2017, 02:03 PM

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Nah he's definitely way more non-sequitur and contextually inappropriate with his insults than anyone else here.

For you to be the bestest insulter here, someone has to take up the other side of the scale, right?

Chula Vista · 08-14-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

You catch insults because you spout extremely controversial views.

Controversial??? Says who? 1 in every 3 men on the planet is circumsized and mild corporal punishment is still a very prevalent form of discipline if all else fails.

Maybe you should get down off of your high horse.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2017, 02:05 PM

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Controversial??? Says who? 1 in every 3 men on the planet is circumsized and mild corporal punishment is still a very prevalent form of discipline if all else fails.

Maybe you should get down off of your high horse.

Considering the amount of backlash you've received for those opinions that you failed to justify with anything beyond a bandwagon argument, you really wouldn't consider those things controversial?

Talk about high horses.

Chula Vista · 08-14-2017, 02:12 PM

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Considering the amount of backlash you've received for those opinions that you failed to justify with anything beyond a bandwagon argument, you really wouldn't consider those things controversial?

Maybe it's more about different generations?

And being against circumcision or spanking is just as much a bandwagon thing. You younger guys just have a bigger bandwagon around here.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2017, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Maybe it's more about different generations?

I think its more your reasoning for your opinions than your opinions themselves, since its pretty clear that you're working backwards from your conclusion to reach your backing points instead of the other way around, which would be more logical. It's human nature though and it's near impossible to shake--still worth being conscious of and trying to avoid it though.

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And being against circumcision or spanking is just as much a bandwagon thing. You younger guys just have a bigger bandwagon around here.

The difference is that we don't use the popularity of our opinions to justify them.

Chula Vista · 08-14-2017, 02:28 PM

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It's human nature though and it's near impossible to shake--still worth being conscious of it and trying though.

These two issues have come up in the past over on The Gear Page many times through the years. The majority of that place is a virtual nursing home. The opinions are just as lopsided over there but 180 degrees apart.

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The difference is that we don't use the popularity of our opinions to justify them.

Way to paint with a broad brush. I provide plenty of substance. It just gets tiring being reffered as a "bad parent" a "lazy parent" a "barbaric parent" a "cruel parent", etc. for my views.

**Frownland** · 08-14-2017, 02:30 PM

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I provide plenty of substance.

I will agree that you probably actually believe this.

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It just gets tiring being reffered as a "bad parent" a "lazy parent" a "barbaric parent" a "cruel parent", etc. for my views.

Give me one instance where someone referred to you specifically as this and I will give you 100 dollars.

When you're done with that snipe hunt, I wonder how you feel about this statement: well meaning parents can use bad parenting techniques.