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Key 06-16-2016 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1710648)
Huh? Ted Bundy had a 136 iq which while above average is not genius level. Dahmer was a 145. Charlene Williams had the highest iq of any serial killer in history with a 160. Loeb and Leopold had 150 and 158 iq's. Carrol Cole had a 152. Andrew Cunanan surprisingly had a 147 iq. There are many more that fall in the genius level but i'm not gonna look anymore up. Ted Bundy is the exception to being genius maybe because he wasn't.

I knew it. I always remember hearing about how mentally gifted serial killers were, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it.

FRED HALE SR. 06-16-2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1710778)
He was much more charismatic (at least on TV) than Dahmer, so it makes him look smarter. I imagine there are plenty of used car salesmen who can make you think they're much smarter than they really are.

Even more so today being that information is at your fingertips and we have all the answers if we choose to look.

And Ki, you should have stuck by your convictions man. Don't accept other peoples answers for truth, dig a little deeper.

Chula Vista 06-16-2016 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1710819)

And Ki, you should have stuck by your convictions man. Don't accept other peoples answers for truth, dig a little deeper.

Not so fast.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra_cUTmQykc

Average IQ is 94.7 based on a study of over 2,000 serial killers. There's certainly quite a few very bright ones but there's also quite a few who don't have many lights on in the attic.

Key 06-16-2016 07:32 PM

My whole point with bringing intelligence into the equation stems from the fact that most if not all serial killers have the mental capacity to allow their brain to put aside the remorse that comes with death. There's gotta be a special kind of intelligence that it takes to be able to put that remorse aside to continue on the murderous road that those guys fall under. I remember warching several interviews of serial killers where they were able to answer questions with a sense of intelligence in their answers.

That's why I think it'd be fascinating to be able to sit down with one and ask them questions about their life. They can verbally demonstrate their intelligence through words.

The Batlord 06-16-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1710900)
Not so fast.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra_cUTmQykc

Average IQ is 94.7 based on a study of over 2,000 serial killers. There's certainly quite a few very bright ones but there's also quite a few who don't have many lights on in the attic.

I suspect that the ones who get the most notice, and have the highest IQs, are probably the ones who are smarter than your average serial killer. They would be more likely to escape notice and go on to kill more people, and body count is a large decider for who gets the most press.

Key 06-16-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1710919)
I suspect that the ones who get the most notice, and have the highest IQs, are probably the ones who are smarter than your average serial killer. They would be more likely to escape notice and go on to kill more people, and body count is a large decider for who gets the most press.

I think the way the killer does his business is another way they get more press. Especially if the press is able to label what the killer was famous for. I.e. Ted Bundy and females or Dahmer and homosexuals. But you make a good point regardless.

The Batlord 06-16-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1710923)
I think the way the killer does his business is another way they get more press. Especially if the press is able to label what the killer was famous for. I.e. Ted Bundy and females or Dahmer and homosexuals. But you make a good point regardless.

The more creative serial killers might have higher IQs I guess, but I don't know if more creative artists in general have higher IQs than less creative ones, so I don't know if that is a relevant criteria. And yeah, I guess I would describe serial killing as an art in a ****ed up sense. It's certainly not a science. *shrug*

Key 06-16-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1710935)
The more creative serial killers might have higher IQs I guess, but I don't know if more creative artists in general have higher IQs than less creative ones, so I don't know if that is a relevant criteria. And yeah, I guess I would describe serial killing as an art in a ****ed up sense. It's certainly not a science. *shrug*

I mentioned in my first post that I classify an interest in serial killers to be in the same league as having an interest in horror games and the like. So yes, you could potentially consider it an art in a really ****ed up kind of way.

The Batlord 06-16-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1710937)
I mentioned in my first post that I classify an interest in serial killers to be in the same league as having an interest in horror games and the like. So yes, you could potentially consider it an art in a really ****ed up kind of way.

I'd be interested in a book that evaluated the artistic sensibilities of serial killers. Would be one of those books like that autobiography of OJ Simpson that got banned. Just complete and total outrage but you can't not read it.

And who knows, maybe Jeffrey Dahmer's cannibalism is absolute poetry.

Key 06-16-2016 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1710941)
I'd be interested in a book that evaluated the artistic sensibilities of serial killers. Would be one of those books like that autobiography of OJ Simpson that got banned. Just complete and total outrage but you can't not read it.

I'd read the **** out of something like that. It'd probably be gruesome and dark but it'd really open people's eyes to what a serial killer is capable of mentally. That's where my interest stems from when it boils down to the simpler things. I'm jealous of the people that get to interview killers as well as the people who get to analyze the brain chemistry after a killer has died. It must be mind blowing.

Chula Vista 06-16-2016 08:07 PM

Over a 16 year span Gary Ridgeway killed 49 women (he admitted to killing twice that amount). He had an IQ of 82.

I don't think there's any steadfast profiles when it comes to serial killers.

The Batlord 06-16-2016 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1710956)
Over a 16 year span Gary Ridgeway killed 49 women (he admitted to killing twice that amount). He had an IQ of 82.

I don't think there's any steadfast profiles when it comes to serial killers.

Of course not, but I imagine a smart person is going to be better at avoiding authorities than a dumb person. In general of course.

The Batlord 06-18-2016 01:32 PM

For reals though. I don't think about being a serial killer, or murder (at least not when I'm not at work), or any particularly ****ed up ****, at least no more than would be considered in the acceptable range. But I do think about how it might be kinda nice in a messed up way to have that same kind of social status as a serial killer who's been caught. Yeah it must suck for everyone to hate you, but it's gotta be kinda freeing at the same time to have absolutely every expectation society ever had or will have for you removed. You don't have to worry about disappointing loved ones or people thinking less of you for doing something, cause it is now physically impossible for you to disappoint anybody more than you already have. I'm sure it sucks ass, but you are officially BELOW rock bottom, without even the possibility of going back up, so you can just... not give even the slightest **** anymore. There's gotta be some kind of freedom in that. You know, until the lethal injection.

Chula Vista 06-18-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1711506)
It's gotta be kinda freeing at the same time to have absolutely every expectation society ever had or will have for you removed. You don't have to worry about disappointing loved ones or people thinking less of you for doing something, cause it is now physically impossible for you to disappoint anybody more than you already have. I'm sure it sucks ass, but you are officially BELOW rock bottom, without even the possibility of going back up, so you can just... not give even the slightest **** anymore. There's gotta be some kind of freedom in that.

Dude, you work at Burger King. You've already reached that place.

The Batlord 06-18-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1711507)
Dude, you work at Burger King. You've already reached that place.

Unfortunately this is not true. My family still has some small degree of faith in me, though I do not know why. I might start havin' to eat some mother****ers to get them off my back.

Chula Vista 06-18-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1711511)
I might start havin' to eat some mother****ers to get them off my back.

Having goals is good. Regardless of the particulars.

The Batlord 06-18-2016 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1711512)
Having goals is good. Regardless of the particulars.

Does your daughter have any ex-boyfriends you wouldn't mind falling off the face of the earth?

Blank. 06-22-2016 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1711513)
Does your daughter have any ex-boyfriends you wouldn't mind falling off the face of the earth?

I have a brother in law that I wish to disappear.

Lonesome Hobo 09-16-2016 04:53 AM

There's never been a decent Irish Serial Killer.

Chula Vista 09-16-2016 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonesome Hobo (Post 1744928)
There's never been a decent Irish Serial Killer.

I beg to differ sir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army

WWWP 09-16-2016 10:53 AM

Batty I highly recommend the podcasts Last Podcast on the Left and Sword and Scale. They, among others, satisfy my morbid interests and are equally well researched and ****ed up.

Lonesome Hobo 09-16-2016 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1744991)

The IRA were/are a terrorist organisation that bombed, shot and murdered men, women, children, Catholics, Protestants, British, Irish.... Just about anybody that didn't believe in a United Ireland were fair game.
Although, a lot of people around the world might see them as some kind of ''freedom fighters'' they should have been over here when 500lb bombs were going off in town centres and they were lifting parts of burned bodies off the streets with shovels and putting them in plastic bags.
Or stopping vans full of workers, letting the Catholics go, then lining up the Protestants outside the van and shooting them all.

Frownland 09-16-2016 12:06 PM

Down with Protestants!

EDIT: Didn't read your post that closely. Down with Catholics too!

Lonesome Hobo 09-16-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745045)
Down with Protestants!

:laughing:

The Batlord 09-16-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1744991)

You're dumb.

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1745028)
Batty I highly recommend the podcasts Last Podcast on the Left and Sword and Scale. They, among others, satisfy my morbid interests and are equally well researched and ****ed up.

Sweet. Will check them out.

Lonesome Hobo 09-16-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1745045)
Down with Protestants!

EDIT: Didn't read your post that closely. Down with Catholics too!

And the Jews! Don't forget the Jews.

Frownland 09-16-2016 12:23 PM

Down with all everyone who isn't an atheist. ESPECIALLY those smug ass Buddhists.

Plankton 09-16-2016 12:31 PM

Death to all who oppose us!

http://rubberslug.s3.amazonaws.com/u...iqudtchl_m.jpg

Blue Hawk 09-17-2016 06:28 AM

http://www.biography.com/people/beve...llitt-17162398

Delusions of Paranoia 09-22-2016 02:53 PM

I'm pretty much in love with J.R., of the Richardson Family Murders (wiki).
I first learned about her in 2009 in a book called Runaway Devil. 11/10 do recommend.

I believe she's around my age and also out of prison now so it just makes me wonder what her new identity is and where she lives and if people recognize her and if she's reformed etc. DS:Lzkxjf I love J.R.

The Batlord 09-22-2016 03:00 PM

Dude, she's probably a bitch.

Key 09-22-2016 03:55 PM

Ted Bundy does things!

The Batlord 09-22-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1747683)

This forum has rules against spam, bitch.

Frownland 09-22-2016 04:12 PM

Spam is disgusting, don't believe what the Hawaiians say.

Key 09-22-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1747694)
This forum has rules against spam, bitch.

:pimp:

The Batlord 09-22-2016 04:14 PM

Oh wait, it's no longer spam since you lost it in the divorce lol.

Key 09-22-2016 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1747700)
Oh wait, it's no longer spam since you lost it in the divorce lol.

Ha.

Frownland 09-22-2016 04:15 PM

You were married?

Key 09-22-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1747703)
You were married?

No. Batlord is just a dick.

Frownland 09-22-2016 04:17 PM

Ah, shoulda just said break up you idiot.


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