When did the concept of death really, truly, sink in?

Lucem Ferre · 06-17-2017, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Ever flown over the USA? Or other parts of the world? There's so much un-used space. For some reason we've adapted to congregating lots of people into very small areas.

If we continue to subsidize farmers, ranchers, clean energy, international trade, etc., there's more than enough resources for everyone. On a side note, one of the striking things I learned traveling to China a number of times, is that because of their population issues they basically will eat ANYTHING that's edible and provides sustenance.

We're kinda spoiled rotten here in the US and in Europe. But if we had to we'd adapt just the far east has.

As already pointed out overpopulation isn't about how much space is left it's about the negative impact it will have on the earth.

And DJ, the idea that anything is put on this earth with a meaning, especially the idea that everything was put forth on this earth for us to use is very much reflective of the naive self centered ideas the religion pushed. These people literally didn't want to accept the fact that the universe does not revolve around us.

Elph, overpopulation isn't a current problem. Well, I've actually seen an article or two that says the opposite. It's a potential problem for the future.

Edit: I didn't read your full post, Chula, I redact my statement.

OccultHawk · 06-17-2017, 02:35 PM

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For some reason we've adapted to congregating lots of people into very small areas.

The reason is agriculture.

The Atlantic
https://apple.news/ADXsxhGkQQA2JP3SElO59qg

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Wildlife accounts for only 3 percent of earth’s land animals—human beings, our livestock, and our pets take up the remaining 97 percent”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...urity-shortage

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The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned.

New research has calculated that nearly 33% of the world’s adequate or high-quality food-producing land has been lost at a rate that far outstrips the pace of natural processes to replace diminished soil.

The University of Sheffield’s Grantham Centre for Sustainable Futures, which undertook the study by analysing various pieces of research published over the past decade, said the loss was “catastrophic” and the trend close to being irretrievable without major changes to agricultural practices.

Your confessed lack of understanding of why people congregate in cities demonstrates the kind of ignorance one finds in a 6th grader. Maybe the rules here forbid me from calling it straight out stupidity but it's very ****ing close.

You're solution is continued urban sprawl apparently. ****ing incredible.

Lucem Ferre · 06-17-2017, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The reason is agriculture.

The Atlantic
https://apple.news/ADXsxhGkQQA2JP3SElO59qg

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...urity-shortage

Your confessed lack of understanding of why people congregate in cities demonstrates the kind of ignorance one finds in a 6th grader. Maybe the rules here forbid me from calling it straight out stupidity but it's very ****ing close.

You're solution is continued urban sprawl apparently. ****ing incredible.

Eh, one of the articles or two.

OccultHawk · 06-17-2017, 02:43 PM

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Elph, overpopulation isn't a current problem.

We're depleting edible fish faster than they're replenishing. Wildlife is encroached upon EVERYWHERE. Look at how people are trying to deal with the desertification of the Sahel.

You can make the argument that I just want to make mankind the center of the new apocalypse myth but that doesn't change what the planet actually looks like. Other large mammals are counted by the thousands and people by the BILLIONS. That's the reality.

djchameleon · 06-17-2017, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

As already pointed out overpopulation isn't about how much space is left it's about the negative impact it will have on the earth.

A negative impact that we are currently fighting so no it isn't a future problem.

**Frownland** · 06-17-2017, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

A negative impact that we are currently fighting so no it isn't a future problem.

No, all lives matter.

OccultHawk · 06-17-2017, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

A negative impact that we are currently fighting so no it isn't a future problem.

Once you jump off a bridge you can fight the problem by flapping your arms around but you're still going to hit the ****ing ground. Go back to not understanding evolution. At least, that bit of ignorance isn't destroying our ability to survive on this planet.

Trollheart · 06-17-2017, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

A negative impact that we are currently fighting so no it isn't a future problem.

How are we fighting it, exactly?

Chula Vista · 06-17-2017, 03:03 PM

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Yeah I'd be terrified to eat any home cooked meals in China.

Thing is, if you open your mind, 95% of the food is awesome. Some of the "greens" they consider vegetables are pretty rank, but most of the protien is killer.

You haven't lived until you're eaten authentic Peking Duck. I've also eaten eel, fish head, chicken feet, and pigeon. The only thing that I couldn't handle was fish ball soup.

Before you cook a fish the first thing you do is scrape out all of the guts. Some insane person decided to take that offal and make meatballs out of it and serve it in a very bland broth. Just the memory of it is making me gack.

Once stayed at a hotel that had a live buffet. Literally. Each table had a boiling pot of water (via sterno) and you'd go up and pick up whatever seafood critters you wanted and then cook them right at your table.

I had an acid flashback watching people walking by me with plates of stuff that was moving.

Oh, and Dim Sum is the greatest thing EVER!!!

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-17-2017, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

You haven't lived until you're eaten authentic Peking Duck. I've also eaten eel, fish head, chicken feet, and pigeon. The only thing that I couldn't handle was fish ball soup.

I'd try all of those but several are eaten here anyway. I cooked a whole fish recently (obviously gutted it first) and kept the head to try that. Was not good, went in the bin. Imagine you'd need a proper recipe and not just an ovened head and a fork tbh.

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Before you cook a fish the first thing you do is scrape out all of the guts. Some insane person decided to take that offal and make meatballs out of it and serve it in a very bland broth. Just the memory of it is making me gack.

What do you think of black pudding, f@ggots, haggis etc?