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Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 01:11 AM

Cheating...
 
So like, I have regular sex with my close friend. This has been going on since we were like 3-5 years old. But she has a boyfriend now. She's had this boyfriend for about 8-10 months now, but we've been having sex on the regular in the last few months. So like, she's basically cheating on her boyfriend? She claims she loves him and that it's just sex for us. But it feels wrong considering I've met the guy like a million times. I mean, I wanna hear your opinions. What do you think of this scenario? Should I tell her that I love her? Or would that ruin our friendship and is not worth asking. Should I just keep ****ing her or should I start attempting to start a relationship somehow? I mean, I dunno at this point. I just want a wide range of advice to help me decide what I should do, because I'm lost at the moment. I've asked Mord and he said she was using me and DWV said...well I'm not entirely sure what he said.

Zhanteimi 09-15-2017 01:23 AM

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Kedvesem 09-15-2017 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
So like, I have regular sex with my close friend. This has been going on since we were like 3-5 years old. But she has a boyfriend now. She's had this boyfriend for about 8-10 months now, but we've been having sex on the regular in the last few months. So like, she's basically cheating on her boyfriend?


Not "basically". She is straight up cheating on him.

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
She claims she loves him and that it's just sex for us.

Sex is never "just sex". See Mord's post above.

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
But it feels wrong

It is.

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
considering I've met the guy like a million times. I mean, I wanna hear your opinions. What do you think of this scenario? Should I tell her that I love her?

If you love her, tell her.

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
Or would that ruin our friendship and is not worth asking.

The friendship is going to be ruined eventually, regardless. If you love her, the friendship must die. It must either die as a seed does, to blossom into something greater that still contains the essence of the friendship, or else it must die altogether, that you might have liberty of heart to love elsewhere.


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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
Should I just keep ****ing her or should I start attempting to start a relationship somehow?

If you love her, go after her. If she refuses that love, then do as a man must: cut her off. Continuing to do as you are doing will not only hurt you in the end, but it continues to weaken and worsen her character. So long as she is keeping you "on the side"--make no mistake, this is what she is doing--she cannot love the man she claims she does.

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
I mean, I dunno at this point. I just want a wide range of advice to help me decide what I should do, because I'm lost at the moment. I've asked Mord and he said she was using me and DWV said...well I'm not entirely sure what he said.

Listen to Mord. Honestly. When you want to do something well, go to someone who has done that thing well and get advice.

Cuthbert 09-15-2017 01:50 AM

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Should I just keep ****ing her or should I start attempting to start a relationship somehow?
Assuming this isn't a wind up, mate you are nuts if you do that.

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 01:51 AM

****, you guy's are right.

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1874017)
Assuming this isn't a wind up, mate you are nuts if you do that.

That is legit what I'm worried about. If i tell her then it could ruin our friendship altogether. What would you recommend in this situation?

Cuthbert 09-15-2017 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874020)
That is legit what I'm worried about. If i tell her then it could ruin our friendship altogether. What would you recommend in this situation?

Just stop talking to her and leave her to it.

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1874022)
Just stop talking to her and leave her to it.

Easier said than done. The sex is great and even without that, she's one of my best friends. It's not even an option to just stop talking to her.

Cuthbert 09-15-2017 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874023)
Easier said than done. The sex is great and even without that, she's one of my best friends. It's not even an option to just stop talking to her.

Course it is mate, delete number, remove from social media and get on with your life.

If you are telling the truth then this is a messy situation.

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1874024)
Course it is mate, delete number, remove from social media and get on with your life.

If you are telling the truth then this is a messy situation.

****.

Cuthbert 09-15-2017 02:48 AM

U ok hun?

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1874027)
U ok hun?

no, feeling really stressed out that i might lose a friend over this. I meet her next on saturday and im being told I need to confront her or leave her. It's a ****ing hard decision man and I don't know know what she's gunna say.

Cuthbert 09-15-2017 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874029)
no, feeling really stressed out that i might lose a friend over this. I meet her next on saturday and im being told I need to confront her or leave her. It's a ****ing hard decision man and I don't know know what she's gunna say.

This is definitely not a wind up then?

Staying 'friends' isn't going to work from what you're saying and nor is entering a relationship (in my opinion), so I would nip it in the bud now and move on.

I mean you can do what you want, but I'd stop now if it were me.

Oriphiel 09-15-2017 04:20 AM

Hey Vi, talk to your friend and tell her how you feel. You'd be surprised how easy it is to solve situations like this with a serious conversation. Before you cut a good friend oit of your life, be upfront with her and try to work things out.

djchameleon 09-15-2017 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874029)
no, feeling really stressed out that i might lose a friend over this. I meet her next on saturday and im being told I need to confront her or leave her. It's a ****ing hard decision man and I don't know know what she's gunna say.

Ride it til the wheels fall off then deal with the aftermath later. I would be wary of getting into a relationship with her if I was you. If it is so easy for her to cheat on her current relationship. What makes you think she would do that to you down the road?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-15-2017 06:09 AM

so are threesomes an option or are we past that

djchameleon 09-15-2017 06:11 AM

If the bf finds out he has been cheated on this whole timr. I doubt threesome is even an option on the table.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-15-2017 06:12 AM

sharing is caring

Lucem Ferre 09-15-2017 06:30 AM

I think this is a perfect example of how poorly some people understand and treat sexuality. It would be great if the dude could handle an open relationship like that but people tend to be insecure. If you've ever had a lot of female friends you notice they always disappear when they get married because the dude doesn't want her hanging out and I think that's sad and a sad way to handle relationships. You might be the reason for that though.

Regardless, she might just be polyamorous.

How you handle it is up to you. Remember that she's playing with somebody's heart here and that's not something to **** around with. The potential to destroy somebody and you never know how they may react. It's a dangerous game. At the same time her relationship is going to fail because she is lying to him. You'll be cutting ties with a close friend for a doomed relationship. In your heart you know what you want though and I can't tell another person how to act on their heart. One thing for sure though is that the current situation can't continue with out serious consequences.

Lucem Ferre 09-15-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1874096)
this isn't a polyamorous situation

Monkey here is involved in some pretty scumbaggish dishonesty

MLM offers the best advice here that you're not gonna take, in my experience your friend is a femme fatale type situation but everyone is different

Could be, you don't know she's not polyamorous.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 09-15-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1874096)
this isn't a polyamorous situation

Monkey here is involved in some pretty scumbaggish dishonesty

MLM offers the best advice here that you're not gonna take, in my experience your friend is a femme fatale type situation but everyone is different



Frownland 09-15-2017 09:47 AM

You're going to hell for fornication and adultery.

The Batlord 09-15-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874013)
So like, I have regular sex with my close friend. This has been going on since we were like 3-5 years old.

3YO Monkey: Yeah, yeah, yeah, take it, bitch.

3YO Girl: I like coloring!!!

WWWP 09-15-2017 09:57 AM

Yeah tbh there's no saving the friendship, and you're equally guilty in this situation - knowingly ****ing someone with a bf is pretty ****ty. I also agree with elph that this is not a polyam situation, if it were that would have been communicated between all parties. I have a feeling you already know all this though violet and you're just looking for validation/legitimization for continuing ****ing her. And ffs don't tell her you love her unless you really do.

Lucem Ferre 09-15-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1874123)
Yeah tbh there's no saving the friendship, and you're equally guilty in this situation - knowingly ****ing someone with a bf is pretty ****ty. I also agree with elph that this is not a polyam situation, if it were that would have been communicated between all parties. I have a feeling you already know all this though violet and you're just looking for validation/legitimization for continuing ****ing her. And ffs don't tell her you love her unless you really do.

No, I'm saying that maybe she's polyamorous and doesn't know it.

WWWP 09-15-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1874124)
No, I'm saying that maybe she's polyamorous and doesn't know it.

Eh, not an excuse for cheating at any rate.

Lucem Ferre 09-15-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1874126)
Eh, not an excuse for cheating at any rate.

Nope. Why I know that relationship will fail.

MicShazam 09-15-2017 11:03 AM

I'm not going to pretend I've got the answer, but whatever you do, throwing out a lifelong friend seems like the worst course of action.

Maybe you two shouldn't be doing this when she's in a relationship. That's not hard to see. Why not just bring that up with her? Tell her you feel that it's wrong and hear her side of it. Chances are she will agree. It might cause short term tensions between you, but if she's really a good friend, it wont likely kill off your friendship forever.

DwnWthVwls 09-15-2017 03:04 PM

Yes because everyone that cheats is poly. Lol

WWWP 09-15-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1874206)
Yes because everyone that cheats is poly. Lol

Right, and everyone who's polyam cheats lol. Polyamory is an agreement and commitment to relationship dynamics, not necessarily an orientation.

djchameleon 09-15-2017 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1874227)
Right, and everyone who's polyam cheats lol. Polyamory is an agreement and commitment to relationship dynamics, not necessarily an orientation.

Exactly, it seems like Lucem thinks it's an orientation.

You don't think that do you Lucem?

DwnWthVwls 09-15-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1874255)
Exactly, it seems like Lucem thinks it's an orientation.

You don't think that do you Lucem?

I've never heard it not used that way... You can be poly and in a monogomous relationship, probably won't be happy, but I know a couple that ran into that issue. It's a relationship orientation ?? (for lack of a better description). What else do you call somebody who doesn't cheat (on their partners behalf), but has a desire to be with or fall in love with other people?

Found this with a quick google search, and it describes pretty well my understanding of the modern usage:

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Polyamory means having multiple romantic relationships at the same time, with the knowledge and consent of everyone involved.

An open relationship is a relationship where the parties are free to take new partners.

The terms both fall under the heading of "ethical nonmonogamy," but they are not synonymous. You can combine them or do one without the other.

If your relationship is polyamorous and open, then it's kosher for you to take new relationships, and you may fall in love with your partners. My relationships work this way.

If your relationship is polyamorous and closed, then you have more than one partner but have agreed not to take any new ones. For example, you could have a closed triad, a group of three people who are only involved with each other and don't get involved with anyone else.

If your relationship is open and not polyamorous, then you may take new partners, but these connections are not supposed to be romantic. Swingers often have sex outside their main relationship, but keep it casual.

If your relationship is neither open nor polyamorous, you're probably monogamous.

djchameleon 09-15-2017 05:07 PM

Knowledge and consent of everyone is the key part.

She might be happy being in a polyamorous relationship but all parties would have to agree to it ahead of time.

Lucem Ferre 09-15-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1874255)
Exactly, it seems like Lucem thinks it's an orientation.

You don't think that do you Lucem?

If polyamory is people that love multiple people rather than one, then yes it kind of fits in that area. Maybe that concept is new to her and she really never realized that love doesn't have to be monogamous like we're taught all our lives. Is that really a controversial way of thinking about it or do you people think I'm justifying her cheating or what?

Stephen 09-15-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Thelonious Monkey (Post 1874029)
no, feeling really stressed out that i might lose a friend over this. I meet her next on saturday and im being told I need to confront her or leave her. It's a ****ing hard decision man and I don't know know what she's gunna say.

So you two were involved before her current relationship? How did you feel about her meeting someone else?

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oj simpson (Post 1874331)
And I'm gonna be straight up with you, too. If you "love her" after having ****ed her your whole life... I dunno man it just seems a bit late to "make a move" at this point. Move on with your life.

You're not related to her right??

Her grandma lived next door to me, so she'd visit every weekend. I don't really know exactly how young we were when it started, but it was pretty damn young. I'll take people's advice and end what we're doing.

Thelonious Monkey 09-15-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oj simpson (Post 1874333)
how old are you?

20.

The Batlord 09-15-2017 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oj simpson (Post 1874331)
And I'm gonna be straight up with you, too. If you "love her" after having ****ed her your whole life... I dunno man it just seems a bit late to "make a move" at this point. Move on with your life.

You're not related to her right??

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Wpnfire 09-15-2017 08:35 PM

You're young. If it turns out badly for you, the two of you will probably reconcile by the time you're thirty.

Cuthbert 09-15-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1874346)
usually when enough time has passed where you can reconcile you no longer care anyway there's so many other people they're everywhere it's almost gross

Agreed.


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