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OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 06:07 PM

I can’t speak for situations abroad but in America education needs to be free and non-compulsory. And I mean non-compulsory on both ends. Students of any age should be able to reject school and schools and teachers should be able to reject students.

You might think that creating a life skills employment centered curriculum would encourage cooperation but teachers would still be dealing with the endless barrage of **** yous and disruption and idiotic dip ****s starting **** with other students simply because they’re useless dysfunctional ****s.

Here’s how it would go.

What do you want to learn?

I want to be a mechanic.

Two weeks later it turns out learning to be a mechanic takes effort. 15 year old pours sugar in the gas tank and tells the teacher to suck a dick. Don’t believe it? Try it.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

And has no compulsory school system succeeded with this?

Yeah. Day care.

I mean only day care. Compulsory education does not succeed at providing daycare because the environment is too toxic to everyone involved to be called a success.

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I can’t speak for situations abroad but in America education needs to be free and non-compulsory. And I mean non-compulsory on both ends. Students of any age should be able to reject school and schools and teachers should be able to reject students.

You might think that creating a life skills employment centered curriculum would encourage cooperation but teachers would still be dealing with the endless barrage of **** yous and disruption and idiotic dip ****s starting **** with other students simply because they’re useless dysfunctional ****s.

Here’s how it would go.

What do you want to learn?

I want to be a mechanic.

Two weeks later it turns out learning to be a mechanic takes effort. 15 year old pours sugar in the gas tank and tells the teacher to suck a dick. Don’t believe it? Try it.

Yeah I'm sure there would be ****s, but teach lower class kids skills they actually, honestly think they can use and I suspect the amount of kids who didn't care would actually drop precipitously. You'd just have to get them used to a curriculum they thought they could use and convince them that, yes, we are in fact teaching you life skills, and no, we're not bull****ting you.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I can’t speak for situations abroad but in America education needs to be free and non-compulsory. And I mean non-compulsory on both ends. Students of any age should be able to reject school and schools and teachers should be able to reject students.

You might think that creating a life skills employment centered curriculum would encourage cooperation but teachers would still be dealing with the endless barrage of **** yous and disruption and idiotic dip ****s starting **** with other students simply because they’re useless dysfunctional ****s.

Here’s how it would go.

What do you want to learn?

I want to be a mechanic.

Two weeks later it turns out learning to be a mechanic takes effort. 15 year old pours sugar in the gas tank and tells the teacher to suck a dick. Don’t believe it? Try it.

Prepping people to be functioning members of society is a good trade for a teacher having to deal with being told to suck a dick. You're not missing the forest for the trees, you're missing it for the leaves.

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I should clarify I dont mean to show public education in a negative light

it does what it has to do in Capitalism to do right by kids

the goal however isn't to teach kids math really

Exactly. I'd love for kids to know how to interpret Shakespeare, I'd love to know how to interpret Shakespeare, but the goal of education should be to teach kids how to actually survive in life and be able to not be poor.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Prepping people to be functioning members of society is a good trade for a teacher having to deal with being told to suck a dick. You're not missing the forest for the trees, you're missing it for the leaves.

Go try and be a teacher and then tell me what the **** I’m missing.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah I'm sure there would be ****s, but teach lower class kids skills they actually, honestly think they can use and I suspect the amount of kids who didn't care would actually drop precipitously. You'd just have to get them used to a curriculum they thought they could use and convince them that, yes, we are in fact teaching you life skills, and no, we're not bull****ting you.

It will never work.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Go try and be a teacher and then tell me what the **** I’m missing.

The success.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-25-2017, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

From what I've seen, common core math makes a lot of sense and most likely helps kids understand large numbers and how to approach using them in math a lot better.

I help 4 children with their math homework every week. I can tell you that from my experience, common core is not about learning, but about control.

They don't even teach them the original / basic ways of math. They won't let you just add the fucking numbers together and get an answer. You have to round each number to the nearest 10, then to the nearest 100, then add those, then subtract the originals from the rounded, add those, then subtract that from the answer you got by rounding and adding. Or some stupid shit like that.

If you do it the old way and get the right answer, they count it wrong b/c you didn't follow directions properly.

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Any thoughts on the arising #MeToo-campaign? Imo it has gotten a bit out of hand undermining the real victims when Every girl on social media spams this hashtag..

I have seen some god awful fugly chicks post it and I had to [mentally] call BULLSHIT. And when a male posts it, they get laughed at. Like men can't be victims?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I don't know why we don't offer trade school options in high school. Why not offer kids the knowledge of how to fix cars or weld when they're still in school? They'd clearly do better with that than Algebra 2 that they'll forget in a week if they even learned it in the first place.

Couldn't agree more!

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Compulsory education of any kind is a failure.

Forcing people to do things against their will is hardly the best approach to bettering our society.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What is the goal of compulsory education?

Control of the population. Push agenda into the minds of kids who don't know any better.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

in America education needs to be free and non-compulsory.

Free education sounds enticing. I think access to knowledge should be free in this day and age. But free education only comes from tax money. And taxation is theft. I can understand the argument that if we are going to be taxed anyways, we may as well use those taxes for something good like free education. Find a way to make education free w/o using tax money and I'm all for it.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It will never work.

Change is hard so let's just give up: an American tale.

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