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Old 09-25-2019, 05:49 PM   #851 (permalink)
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Btw there's really nothing innovative about reiterating anti natalist arguments.. in fact it's not even innovative on this board since wwwp beat you to it by a couple years
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:49 PM   #852 (permalink)
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That's fine?
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:51 PM   #853 (permalink)
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As far as I'm concerned if there's a point to all this it should be to achieve immortality and then stop having children.
nah won't happen

You and I will die natural deaths

Subsequent generations will be rendered obsolete by robots and driven extinct

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Old 09-25-2019, 05:53 PM   #854 (permalink)
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If I thought I had a chance at immortality I wouldn't be so happy to kill myself with booze and cigarettes. If I thought I did I'd sacrifice whomever I had to to whatever god asked.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:55 PM   #855 (permalink)
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Nah

I'm not eager to die but I'm a hopeless hedonist like you

I don't smoke cause I want to die, neither do you

There are much easier ways to go
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:01 PM   #856 (permalink)
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It's not the reason I smoke but if I thought I had an eternity to live I'd probably give a hard think to quitting. And I do in fact get a childish, nihilistic kick out of intentionally imbibing death. Like a **** you to a society that tells me I should value life for no other reason than mindless survival instinct.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:06 PM   #857 (permalink)
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In that case it's a petty rebellion. It's muttering"**** you" to your mom under your breath.

Yet you confirm their incentive structure in every other way in a day to day basis.

This is the thing I don't really understand about you. Nothing to live for yet risk aversive. The **** is there to lose?
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:11 PM   #858 (permalink)
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but you want to be alive forever?

I'm pretty ok with being dead and that's why I engage in some behaviors that may bring it about
You must value being alive though no? It's easy to day you're OK with death. I think I'm reasonably OK with it. But I still feel I get something out of life otherwise I wouldn't be here.
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What's so scary about it other than dying?
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:13 PM   #860 (permalink)
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In that case it's a petty rebellion. It's muttering"**** you" to your mom under your breath.

Yet you confirm their incentive structure in every other way in a day to day basis.

This is the thing I don't really understand about you. Nothing to live for yet risk aversive. The **** is there to lose?
Not being terrified.

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but you want to be alive forever?

I'm pretty ok with being dead and that's why I engage in some behaviors that may bring it about
Bro, I've been alive and suffering all this time, watching the world roil and boil every single day, trying to figure out how and if any of it means anything to me, and you're telling me I don't even get to see how it works out? **** you. I want to see how global warming turns out. I want to know if we ever get out of the solar system. I want to see if Israel nukes Iran first or vice versa. I've invested a lot of ****ing time thinking about this **** and I deserve to have my curiosity sated. I can always take a leap off a cliff if life ever gets too real but I'd still like the option of not dying.
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