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Old 12-15-2017, 12:03 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:03 PM   #202 (permalink)
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Exactly how I feel, man. Why would it matter how new the law is?
No, his point is obviously that the mass hysteria is an illogical overreaction since these laws didn't even exist until 2015 and we got along fine on the internet with out them. In fact, I doubt any of us even noticed a difference or even knew of their existence until this sudden surge of fear mongering.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:15 PM   #203 (permalink)
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:21 PM   #204 (permalink)
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No, his point is obviously that the mass hysteria is an illogical overreaction since these laws didn't even exist until 2015 and we got along fine on the internet with out them. In fact, I doubt any of us even noticed a difference or even knew of their existence until this sudden surge of fear mongering.
2015 was when Obama's last regulations came out, but the government has had its hand in maintaining net neutrality since 2010.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:32 PM   #205 (permalink)
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You know it only came in in 2015, right? Like, it wasn’t there before. Big corporations don’t seem too happy about it though.
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No, his point is obviously that the mass hysteria is an illogical overreaction since these laws didn't even exist until 2015 and we got along fine on the internet with out them. In fact, I doubt any of us even noticed a difference or even knew of their existence until this sudden surge of fear mongering.
i mean it's almost like the internet has changed over the years, isn't it? could it be that was what warranted the changes!

if you're in favour of repealing that's whatever but pls present a better argument than "these laws didnt always exist"
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i mean it's almost like the internet has changed over the years, isn't it? could it be that was what warranted the changes!

if you're in favour of repealing that's whatever but pls present a better argument than "these laws didnt always exist"
The argument isn't that "these laws didn't always exist" over simplifying ****. The argument is what changed from back then to now? What dire change did these laws make that you actually noticed? I bet you didn't even know they existed until this hysteria.

I don't care, personally I'm in favor of keeping them, I just think that the fear mongering is an overreaction to something that probably won't have much impact anyways. It's almost very reminiscent to those anti piracy laws being passed way back in 2011 where everybody got their panties in a bunch and here we are with nothing changed still stealing most of our music. Like, calm the **** down. Jesus Christ people are like a bunch of horrified sheep being herded around at the amusement of the shepherd.
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The argument isn't that "these laws didn't always exist" over simplifying ****. The argument is what changed from back then to now? What dire change did these laws make that you actually noticed? I bet you didn't even know they existed until this hysteria.

I don't care, personally I'm in favor of keeping them, I just think that the fear mongering is an overreaction to something that probably won't have much impact anyways. It's almost very reminiscent to those anti piracy laws being passed way back in 2011 where everybody got their panties in a bunch and here we are with nothing changed still stealing most of our music. Like, calm the **** down. Jesus Christ people are like a bunch of horrified sheep being herded around at the amusement of the shepherd.
The main difference in the two scenarios is that there's always been anti-piracy laws, and people were always going go pirate music. If anything, this is significantly worse for people who do pirate music than any anti-piracy law could ever be, because Comcast could basically decide that TPB or Demonoid isn't part of our network.

I think this is more about precedent than anything else, and the repeal is a big loss because of that. On the positive side, I think that there will be some companies that work around it, but still I think we should be working towards socializing the internet like they do in Europe instead of further privatizing it.
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The argument isn't that "these laws didn't always exist" over simplifying ****. The argument is what changed from back then to now? What dire change did these laws make that you actually noticed? I bet you didn't even know they existed until this hysteria.

I don't care, personally I'm in favor of keeping them, I just think that the fear mongering is an overreaction to something that probably won't have much impact anyways. It's almost very reminiscent to those anti piracy laws being passed way back in 2011 where everybody got their panties in a bunch and here we are with nothing changed still stealing most of our music. Like, calm the **** down. Jesus Christ people are like a bunch of horrified sheep being herded around at the amusement of the shepherd.
Speak for yourself. Irish ISPs banned access to torrent sites, and now it's virtually impossible to get near any of them, even with special software. It just doesn't happen. We are the Torrentless Island.
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